what u said about torque is very true. example stock civic si 160 hp 110 (i think?) ft/lb torque, my subaru stock 160 hp 165 ft/lb torque. now my car is MUCH heavier than a civic, but if theyre both stock mine will put about 3 lenghts on the civic through the 1/4 mile, the civic will NEVER pull on me i will be pulling on him for the entire race.
oh yeah firebird, if this post was directed at me for saying something about hp per liter in another post, u should know i was being sarcastic.

i really dont get the hp per liter argument either. so what if your civic makes twice the hp per liter as a camaro ss, your civic still has 160hp and the ss still has 345hp.