Ive taken out a few curbs in my time, and ive lost control, yes true, but am I crazy? no. If I was crazy then I would have lost control and hit people. I drive like that late at night, or on empty roads, empty lots, and I know if Im pushing my limits. Ive never lost control when I felt confident in what I was doing. The times when I have lost control, I knew I was taking a risk, so I made sure it was safe first... call me crazy if you want, but it only tells me that you are less confident in your driving abilities, and judgement than I am of my own. My mom thinks im crazy when when I goose it to 2000 RPMs just to break the ass end loose in an empty parking lot... the reason is because she doesnt know how to drive like that, so she doesnt know the risk.. I've had many opportunities to press my luck safely, and I know when Im pushing it. Im not saying this because I took offense to you calling me crazy... I didnt take offense. It doesnt bother me, but you should know that some people use good judgement even while doing crazy things. I was having fun, at no expense to anyone.