I thought they came 270 stock? The redline is at like 6250 or 6350 or something. I'm pretty sure the Evo IIIs had that much, not totally, but you can check it out. And yeah, it musta been at least 8 cars, he was way back there. Maybe he was braking, but my buddy just grabbed 3rd and ripped him apart...no bullshit here, I was sitting in the car.