yeah i have to get my ass in gear and go harass the dealers by me, i think there are like 3 within 25 miles of me. i'll probably go on my lunch hour tomorrow. i'll see what they all say in regards to price, availibility, quanity, hp, the whole nine. i'll post it tomorrow night probably. so here's hoping that between 3 dealers, i'll be able to get my black or red evo under $30k