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i dont take creatine, as far as im concerned it is a lazy way of doing things, and i couldve told you that vitamin C can break down phosphocreatine, but what you have to understand is that in a healthy diet you are going to have to mix creatine and vitamin C to some extent. You have to do so in moderation, but still be sure to get enough vitamin C. If you take creatine 5x/day(loading) or 2x/day(maintenance) it is bound to have to come in to contace with vitamin C. Which also has to be taken daily, because as you probably know it is water soluable and therefore flushed out of your system periodically unlike fat soluable vitamins. Taking creatine only flushes vitamin c out faster so it is important to pay attention to your vitamin c intake.

That being said i never suggested that creatine should be taken directly alongside orange juice, or etc. just that it is still important to include vitamin c in your diet. Creatine should be taken with grape juice or other juices w/o citric acid b/c it does denature it into a waste product. Caffine is alos something you will want to avoid as it plays a well known role in excreting water from the body. When you take crea with grape juice or sweetened drinks (yeah that powder crap you buy for your kids) kool aid and etc and simple carbs you increase insulin release which drives the creatine into your muscle cells.

but the bottom line is that vitamin c and other antioxidants help to decrease muscle tssue damage from lifting so they should never be left out of a smart lifter's diet.

By the way.
-Jarrow's creatine surge
-EAS Betagen HP Creatine HMB
- countless creatine fuel cocktails

just a few examples of the many creatine based supplements which include vitamin c directly along with the crea.