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Old 08-01-2004, 10:51 PM
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Just to clarify, the answers to why shocks compress, what effects how they compress, etc is not wrong. Stiffer vavled shocks and springs with a higher spring rate WILL compress less, meaning less body roll. With a spring rate, a spring rate of 220lbs/inch means for every 220 pounds of pressure applied, they will compress 1 inch. If the springs have 340lbs/inch spring rate, it will take 340lbs of pressure to compress those springs the same 1 inch. The later springs are stiffer, and of course will help give you less roll. However, the ride will be stiffer as a result, and is considered less comfy. Now with shocks, it's simlier. A stiffer vavled shock will require more pressure to compress than a softer shock will. Since you said at first it only does this under HEAVY cornering loads, this is why I said stiffer shocks and springs my help. I was not aware since you didn't say, that it did this under moderate loads. I have heard of the fronts rubbing before when dropped on blues, but not the rear. Since it will reduce the body roll and take more pressure to compress, you my not compress enough in the end to rub. However, this doesn't solve WHY you are rubbing.

Now sway bars ALSO reduce body roll. A lot of OEMs use sway bars to help cut down on body roll, so that they arn't forced to use stiffer shocks and springs, thereby reducing ride qaulity. Now depending on your goals in handling (front bais, rear bais,jackasssi would know more specific as to what roll bar sizes will effect you how in the front, rear, etc), you can use front sway bars, rear, or both. This is another way to modify a suspension to reduce body roll. More often than not, a combo of stiffer shocks/springs and sway bars are used to help reduce body roll.

If you are looking to cut down on body roll, as you said, and you do not wish to buy stiffer vavled shocks and springs with a higher spring rate, then sway bars (anti roll bars) will help reduce the body roll. One of your comments was "how do I reduce the body roll, it rolls during hard cornering. This will help reduce some of the body roll. It may not elimiate the rubbing, depending on the wheel offset, how low you are, etc. But it will help.

I remember that a 40mm -44mm offset was the recommened offsets range for a 92-95 civic, which I believe you said you have (I realize thats a little different than civicsiracers answer). I belive I have heard this from more than one tire/wheel place, as well as from Dazz motorsports. Call up Konig or their distrubtor and ask them the proper offset. If they were wrong and CivicSiRacer is correct, then you'll want to know the wheel offset is indeed the issue. The manufacturer should know what the offset should be, if you are indeed concerned and want to double check.

Maybe it is indeed an offset issue, that I do not know. I just know you wantewd less body roll, and if you still desire less body roll, sway bars will help givew you less body roll without having to replace the shocks/springs with stiffer ones. If it's only rubbing on the outside of the wheel well under hard cornering, rolling the fender may indeed help with problem, especially when combined with sway bars. Even if it is the offset, if you still want less body roll in the end, look into sway bars (anti roll bars).

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