zx2 thanks for the tips I have checked the battery (replaced it only because it was a factory battery over 5 yrs) and cleaned the cable ends really well even the ground points. Tightend nicely. What is the best way to test the alternator at home I have used the voltmeter and that indicates it is increasing the voltage higher then the battery (in fact voltage was higher after the new battery install) You know even after I did all this I just mentioned the car still had issues.