does this have to do with 88-91 civic? Shouldn't you have posted this in the Seriously Off Topic thread??? I think you should be docked 1 post point for starting this thread and I should too for responding to it. What the hell does post counts matter anyways, do you get a cookie for the most posts or something? There are a ton of people who post just to post; doesn't matter on their post count they're still newbies in their mentality and knowledge.