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Old 06-22-2004, 01:21 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: amsoil

>I would like to see these reports...please post or i call BS!<

Call it anything you choose. We do testing for $. We would be happy to test whatever you like for money. (BTW, The tests that we were doing were NOT done for Mobil 1. ) Nor were they done for any competitor of Amsoil.

>It's funny you say Mobil is superior, but in all test done by many labs, mobil was the worst synthetic oil with the most "scaring" on engine parts.<

And, I would like to see these reports. Please post or I call BS!

>Many companies tested it and they all say they would rather run Havoline Synthetic, which tested very high and is a very good oil, then Mobil anyday.<

And you of course have these reports also?

>And your reports better not sound like that stupid Mobil commercial with the benz.....laboratory test my ass, how can you test and grade your own oil?<

"better not sound..." Is this a threat?

>Just ridiculous.<

No, what is ridiculous is Amsoil's flagrant use of customer testimonials with nothing to verify them. And non existant fleet tests. (Diluth MN, Police tests, and more.) (Call them. Do some simple verification. You don't need $500K of dyno (etc) equipment to find out some of AMSOIL'S bogus claims.

And.. remember, I never said, nor did our tests indicate Amosoil was bad oil. It is just very expensive, has more sellers than customers (ala Amway), and provides nothing over other synths.

>Also, Amsoil also states by testing that their gear box lube(75-140w) increases gas mileage by 4.75% or something very close to tha tnumber on the bottle.<

Aha! Another bougus claim. Feel free to drop by our place any time, with your choice of cars (engines etc.) We would be happy to show you that AMsoil will not only NOT provide 4.75% over any other synthetic, it won't even provide it over the cheapest dinosaur base oil. Engine or chassis dyno, testing for raw fuel consumption. HP, BSFC. or heat dissapation, or most any other test you want. It (Amsoil) will do fine, but it won't do any better (if as good) as any other synthetic.
Anyone who makes a general claim of percentages this high with ANY oil is lying, since the range of frictional losses in the internal combustion engine aren't close to that high.

BTW, F1 (and CART previously) spent more money testing and validating engine oils than most anyone. Most CART teams use Mobile 1 right out of the bottle. (I have been there. Several F1 teams do also.)
I am aware of none using AMSOIL. (BTW, there is no Race Santioning body requirement that they use a sponsor's oil. They simply use the best. (I am aware of a couple NASCAR teams that even use Valvoline. Again, none that use AMSOIL.) Many other race teams use RedLine, Royal Purple and some specialty blends.

A final note... Regarding unbiased testing. I noticed that AMSOIL has just started posting another test on their web site. A test that THEY are controlling on 4? Busses! Please look it over. It is totally bogus, with no controls, no blinds or valid statistics. However, like the old "Diluth Fleet tests" they will tout some miraculous findings.

But, feel free to continue to use (and sell ? ) Amsoil. It won't hurt a thing, other than your wallet.

Jim
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