how about this guys..let me call up Zex next week and find out if i can get better prices than their sales price...and then we can all buy it together...i did some little research and seems like they are the same thing...just like Griffen makes all the intercooler for everyone but companies like HKS, GReddy just sells it for more....although HKS and GReddy gives Griffen the design sheets...anyway, i'll get back to you guys on this.