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yea, im probably goign to go with the type r, but i haven't heard the new type S yet, i guess i gotta find a place that carries them and go check it out, and its also dvc instead of svc, and the voice coils are right next to eachother, which makes it easier to wire, anyways the alpine guy said the type r has more quality, and since im going for sq i'll get the type R, but i'll probably end up buying the type S with a vented box in a few months, just to see how it sounds, heh switch subwoofers, $150 wouldn't hurt for a new sub+ custom box right =D
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