yeah, it's overpriced for sure and it's also not the best thing out there. to the disbelief of many people. i can also show you dynos of gsr engine using stock honda ITR and CTR cams, dc header, thermal exhaust and still making more than that Spoon engine. all i want people, not you specifically, but anyone that Spoon isn't the best thing since sliced bread as far as honda's aftermarket is concerned. i personally don't understand what the big deal is. :flash: the dyno runs with different parts does prove that Spoon parts aren't the best performing parts out there. that's my point.