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Originally Posted by Joseph1082
Don't these two cars share the same engine?
This kid I know had a Badass 1st gen DSM AWD... 20G turbo 500HP. Isn't a DSM much lighter than an Evo. I've just seen a lot more DSMs and seen what they are capable of, and I don't think you can discount them yet. Plus, I'd rather be driving one especially 2nd gen I mean looks wise... It looks more like a sports car that'll kick your ass. But I guess if you have money then it is really a matter of prefference, they are essentially the same thing AWD Mitsibishi.
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did you not read what i was saying in the other discussion? the engine even though same by name is totally different. nothing will fit. not even the headgasket. the engine on the DSM's are the outdated EVO's from 1-3. but from 4 on to 8 it usually a completely different engine. the DSM's 4G63 is a dinosaur compared to the modern 4G63's. you know how a DSM 4G63 looks, take a look at a EVO engine and you notice that its facing the wrong way.
EVO: transmission is on the driver's side
DSM: transmission is on the passenger side
EVO: Cam sprockets are on passenger side
DSM: Cam sprockets are on driver's side
just take a look at the two. you will see that its not the same engine. you saying that those 2 engine are the same is like saying all SR20DET's are the same, but they are sooo different from one another as well.
example:
SR20DET from a pulsar GTi-R. FWD, have 4 throttle bodies, and turbo
SR20DET from a S13 chassis car, RWD, single throttle body with a smooth valve cover finish
SR20DET from S14-S15: engine now have variable valve timing motor on exhuast cam side of the motor, the valve cover now have a large hump from cylinder #1-3. the intake manifold plenum is also a different design.
you see they all have the same name, but those motors are incredibaly different. please don't compare a stock EVO-to a stock DSM. or even a MODDED DSM to a MODDED EVO. the EVO is light years ahead in every way.
also about the drive train, you once again think that they are the same. the EVO's drive train is soo much more stronger, i have yet heard of a single EVO break its tranny. i know the car is new, but no one really complained about them even in japan or new zealand, and britain. meanwhile the DSM's trannys are built like crap. even the GS-T's have tranny problems. that is why my friend sold his. the only thing htat comes close to an evo in durablilty is the 1st gen DSM becusae they were exactly the same thing as the Galant VR-4 but with a different body shell. but even that was obsolete. if Mitsubishi desided to keep racing with the Galant Chassis, then Subaru would've moped the floor with their ass, and Mitsubishi wouldn't have won 4 rally champion ships in a row. the DSM chassis was just gettin too outdated to stay competitive. in stock form, did the GSX or Talon TSi even compare to a Porsche? or a Skyline? or a NSX? even compared to a Z32 300ZX TT? if you compare a DSM to those in handling, and braking, and the overall package it would be a joke. yet the EVO can smoke half o those cars, and can keep up with the rest.