well....i just had a monkeywrench thrown in the whole thing. A buddy of mine called me today and said he found a motor. guy wrecked a 93 civic in the rear........wants to sell the whole car for 200 bucks, my friend cranked it up today....motor has 100k on it. not sure what i'd do with a wrecked 93 civic body though.....i guess it's worth it just for the tranny though huh? oh well, things always get complicated. Oh, and thanks for the timing info.....definately sounds easier than i thought it would be.