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I agree with you that the S and base model should not be part of the discussion. The Turbo, I have read (but couldn't tell you where, as I have forgotten) turned in a slightly better time at Nurburgring. This is not to say that I would prefer to have a Cayenne, I wouldn't, but my girlfriend is pushing me to get one...
Oh, and I know all about Ferry Porsche's famous quote, but the fact of the matter is that the Porsche family has built all sorts of vehicles, from a diesel tractor, to the VW Bug, to the 959. To me, its not about how fast it goes, it is about how well its engineered.
oh, yes, and one more thing: lose the condescending attitude. Like I said before, you are just making yourself look like a twit.
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