View Single Post
Old 01-29-2004, 04:03 PM   #52
BP2K2Max
AF Fanatic
 
BP2K2Max's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Poughkeepsie, New York
Posts: 4,079
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to BP2K2Max
Re: Lost to Acura CL types S

dammit everyone needs to chill out. skids just disagree's. it's his right as an american. i disagree with him so...

Quote:
Originally Posted by skids929
If I had a choice, I would drive a 99 anything over a 96, it is newer. I don't disagree with you on the 50 more horse point you brought up, it is exactly what I am trying to say to the person who earlier in this thread claims their 4th gen Max could beat a Type S. Paaaaalease!
well i posted this

"my friend has an 01 cl type s and it's not all that fast, i could hang with him in my 4th gen and when i got my y pipe i'd pull on him and he had 260 hp and 213 lbs/tq. the CL S weighs 3400 lbs., a whole 1/4 ton more than a 4th gen max. so once you factor in the weight (100lbs=~10hp) you're realitically comparing a 210hp car to a 190 hp car, they both have similar tq Acura has the advantage by a measly 8 lbs of tq pushing an extra 500 lbs of body weight. he was auto i was 5 speed so it's totally feasible."

and i stand by it, except that it's 232 tq not 213. i didn't race the 6 speed cl, i know for a fact that would probably have handed me my ass, it was the 5 speed auto w/ manual mode, but when you figure in acura's tendency to make their cars so overweight, their hp ratings are nothing more than pretty numbers dulled down by the cars obesity. HP sells cars that's how they move their units. like the "amazing" the 240 hp S2000. they fail to mention that it only has 159 lbs of tQ and needs to be redlined every gear to actually move the vehicle. the 190 hp Type R teggie. that thing weighs 2800 lbs. a measly 95 lbs less than the maxima. however the maxima makes 63 more lbs of TQ. same with the 99 SI with a whopping 160 hp but a meager 113 lbs of Tq. i used to beat them all the time in my SE-R cuz it had 25 lbs of tq more and weighed less, the 15 less hp didn't mean anything. same goes for the 200 hp RSX type S with it's 140 lbs of TQ. saying a 190 hp car can't beat a 240 hp car is stupid, especially when that 240 hp car makes almost the same Tq and weighs significantly more. i'm not saying i could have beaten an accord, or that i have, i'm just saying making judgements like that based solely on the HP rating is stupid. a cl type S runs a 15.3 in the 1/4


look:
Motor Trend, Road Test, June 1994
"Our tester, a five-speed SE version of this fourth generation of Maxima, produced a blazing 6.6-second 0-60-mph time, and a 15.2-second, 92.4-mph quarter-mile run. Ask us,
and we'll tell you how the Maxima SE will whip the Integra GS-R, and Taurus SHO;
the new Maxima also shows no mercy on its Nissan stablemates: It'll stomp the normally aspirated 300ZX, and drivers of automatic-transmissioned 300ZX Turbos best not be snoozing when the light goes green.
This demure-looking family car is the quickest Japanese sedan available in the States."

the N/A 300zx's at that time made 220 hp, which is 30 more than the max, but look what happened.
__________________
BP's Rides;
- 2005 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6R- Mods: ECU Jumper, Akrapovic Slip-on, Power Commander III, 8000K HID's.
- 2K2 Maxima 6 Speed-Mods: Advanced Timing, Cattman Cat-back Exhaust, H&R Springs, Tokico Illumina Struts, Konig Theory 19" Rims.
BP2K2Max is offline   Reply With Quote