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Originally Posted by TIBBY01
sorry dood, im a moron. i didnt mean to type stock hinges, i meant the stock hinge mounting point. the tiburon door is heavy as shit, and the way it exert pressure on that mounting point with a lambo conversion is different. normally, the door would just make the top of the hinge want to rip off the mounting point. with the lambo conversion, it makes it want to rip out, but at a totally different angle. this causes stress on areas of the mounting point that werent designed for stress. and because that mounting point is connected to the pillar, and therefore connected to the roof, it just totally fucks everything up. but tiburon doors are 100+ lbs., so i doubt you'd have that problem with a civic door. other kits have been installed on the tiburon, with the same results. if any of you guys saw the lambo door APC 03 tiburon at SEMA, you would know what i am saying. they were uneven and scratching the body at certain points.
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There are several things it could be as far as sratching and uneven. I have seen some "properly installed" kits that by no means where proper. I mean, some of them where flat out wrong and lazy. When mine were first installed, someone helped me and was very lazy rolling the fender on one side. This resulted in and uneven angle and level to which it opened. It scratch the hinge down to the metal. The solution? Remove it all, properly roll the fender, self etching primer on the metal part, paint the hinge, reinstall. It opens even now. Also, aftermarket fenders, widebody, Z3, etc. It won't always clear like stock. The kits where designed with stock fenders, not these types. Things down always fit right, but there are always way's to do it if you just take your time. Even if it is "bolt on" take your time, check it out. You paid the $$ for it. Do it right. If it needs to be modified a bit, then so be it. Also, the door may be heavy, but it won't "rip the hinge from the top mounting point." The angle may be differnt, but the VDC hinge it supported with all the stock bolt holes and mounts accross the entire side of the door for support. If "normally, the door would just make the top of the hinge want to rip off the mounting point," the it's not the Lambo doors fucking the car up. The car has a MAJOR issue stock from the get go. There is no way a stock opening door should do that, period. The door may open at a different angle, but the isn't so strange and extreme it will case the whole f-ing door to rip off and bend the frame. If the frame wants to rip stock, it's not the kit. The car was designed piss poor. Also as I said above, nothing is attached to the pillar or roof, sotck or otherwise. The baseplate attaches to the frame under the fender, the other part of the hinge to the door. Neither of there connects to the roof or piller, espeically in a manner that should "ruin it all." If the weight of the door can warp the entire frame like you said as a result of that, then obviuosly that car has a major issue. No properly designed car should do that at all. In this case, it wouldn't be a lambo door or VDC issue, it would be an issue with that car's factory design.