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Old 01-15-2004, 06:25 PM
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Re: Re: Shed light on this strange mystery!

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Originally Posted by starkfu
Ok, now there are a few questions i would like to ask before going any further.

1. what information do you have in yours, and what info was in the acura manual, were there vin #'s and addresses, or just blank manuals?

2. Did anyone at the dealership happen to know you were going on Vacation, sales, finance, anyone?

Now i can tell you this, in my 7 years as a MECP certified first class security specialist, there are a few easy ways to bypass the transponder system that many people have access to.

1. If someone were to acquire certain info about you, i have to be vague as this is not intended as a how to for thieves, and were upstanding looking enough Honda would most likely cut a key and burn a code to it. This is quite common, but when this is done it is usually some one who works at the dealership.

2. The transponder system is a fairly simple system, and like gm's vats and ford's pats systems the transponder is a separate entity from the starter circuit, therefor it is able to be bypassed electronically, now as this is definately not an easy task an experienced person who knows what they are doing could add a half a min to the time it takes to hot wire a car to bypass the transponder. Also, since the transponder is a code based system, there are so called black boxes that can simulate codes until it finds one that works, although this is very uncommon and probably wouldn't be used on a hybrid honda. since the transponder reciever ring only has a range of about 6 in to a foot they would have to gain access to the inside of the car.

Now here is my hypothesis as i know a dealership that was caught doing this.

Someone at the dealership knew you were going on vacation, they acquired the data necessary to have a key made and found the car that they then used to stake out other cars that they could break into or steal. When they were done with it, if they were smart, they cleaned it and left it for you to recover without a trace of what happened. My guess is that alot of vehicles were broken into and any witnesses will report your vehicle and liscense plate to the police as the getaway vehicle if that was the case. Now i know you may think why would a dealership do that? well i don't have the answer to that, but i have seen this scenario many times before. Now don't get me wrong, i am not saying every or even alot of dealerships do this, i have a great relationship with the honda dealer i deal with now. but i will give you my advice that i give to all of my customers. Security is only a tool, if a thief wants your car, he will get it, the only thing you can do is be smart about what you do with your car, and make it as hard as possible for him to steal it. ie, alarm, remove door locks, remove lock rods, rewire power locks, etc. now i know this isn't an option for everyone, so be smart where you park, ie in the light, in a high traffic area. Well i hope you do find out what happened, have you filed a police report? I hope this shed some light on your situation. If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

To clarify, no i have never done this, i would love the opportunity just like the next guy to beat down a thief, i have had my car broken into twice, never stolen and never lost any equipment, only cd's and a cell phone, (that's why i burn all my cd's now!) it's my belief that if a theif gets frustrated enough he will damage your car or eqiupment and leave, but that's why we have warranties and ebay!

Good luck in your hunt, if there's any other way i can help let me know.

Greg
Yep, I too am in the alarm bizz and all what you said is about right.

Did they damage the column at all? If not, it had to be a joy ride from the inside .
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