Everybody wants the magic 3 combination. I also did when I was wheel shopping. I ran across a deal I couldn't refuse. Although I don't like Konig that much, I bought a set of 16x7 Rated-R's (which is the lightest in it's wheel diameter) brand spankin' new w/nice valves for $420 shipped off of eBay. They've been good to me so far, I also baby them because I don't want something to happen to the rims (such as fractures) and be caught blind-sided. That wasn't such a bad deal as Discount Tire couldn't match or beat the price (which is uncommon). When I got them, the "Rated-R" stickers on one of the spokes looked really corny; you know I removed those. To be honest, yes, they are knock-off. I'm totally comfortable that I have the TE-37 look with more weight and poorer craftsmanship, but I have a polished lip (which looks nice) and paid WAY less. As far as having the light strong cheap combo., I'd say only on a lucky strike for a used pair.