thanks...i guess my real point now that i think about it is this: prelude's are tuned pretty wild from the factory and when you put one up against a supra or a Z car or a mercedes, etc...most of the time youre gonna get put in your place. ah ha...incentive...throw a couple hundred into it and next time you stick with him a little longer. either way at the end of the race, a thumbs up and head back to home or the shop to let the mad scientist rip apart the block again...ha ha, thanks guys...