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Originally Posted by Polygon
First off, just because the alternator goes bad doesn't mean that the car was a shit box. Nobody can make a perfect product. You will have parts that roll off the assembly line that will break. It doesn't matter where they are manufactured, absolutely NO company can turn out a perfect product. I can't believe that you assume all American cars are crap just because you had a Ford where the alternator went out at 20,000 miles. Also, a lot of Hondas are manufactured here in the states. It is much less money than importing them.
As for market value, you are a perfect example of why that doesn't mean jack shit. Car values are decided by a group of idiots that make assumptions like you did about a car. Just because it has a low resell does not make it a bad car. It means that someone else thought it was worth that much. It has very little reflection on a cars reliability. I assure you that every car company makes shitty cars.
Now for the original topic. First off, I would like to point out to you that the Cavalier and the Sunfire is the same damn car. Second, the SRT is NOT a Neon. While it might have a striking resemblance to the Neon it shares very little else in common with it. In fact no where on the car are there any Neon badges and Dodge isn't marketing it as a Neon once again it is just people making assumptions. It get a lot better though. You're bitching about people modifying their econo cars. I don't see a problem with that "run what ya' brung." I admire people that do that, but they have to do it tastefully. I agree that they need to understand what they have and not pretend they have a Ferrari. However; why don't you bitch at Subaru, Mitsubishi, and Nissan. They have been doing it for years. The WRX and the STi are based on the Impreza which is an economy car. The Lancer Evolution is based on the economy Lancer. Also the raved Skyline GTR34 is based on the Skyline which is a economy car and even used as a taxi in Japan. A lot of fast cars have been based off humble roots. Who gives a shit what other people do? Let them do what they want. If they want to be stupid then let them be, there is nothing you can do about it. However; don't be surprised if you get you ass handed to you by one, they are called sleepers.
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I AGREE THAT ALL MAKES DONT MAKE PERFECT CARS. THE HONDA ACCORD 2000 MODEL HAD THOUSANDS OF RECALLS DUE TO IGNITION PROBLEMS. BUT IF U DRIVE DOWN THE HIGHWAY WHAT SORT OF CARS DO U SEE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD? MOSTLY DOMESTICS. I SAW ONLY ONE 1992 TOYOTA CAMRY ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD SO FAR, N TRUST ME DRIVING FROM CHICAGO ILLINOIS TO VIRGINIA EVERY YEAR I DO SPEND ENOUGH TIME ON THE HIGHWAY TO NOTICE THIS. N THE SRT IS BASICALLY A NEON, WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT THEY CALL IT, SAME PLATFORM SAME LOOK, BASICALLY SAME CAR. SURE THEY CHANGED THE ENGINE N EVERYTHING ELSE, ITS A TOP MODEL NEON, IT ISNT GOING TO REPLACE THE ECONOMY NEON. AND ITS ABOUT TIME THEY STARTED DOING THINGS RIGHT BY SPENDING TIME ENGINEERING. YES ALOT OF CARS TODAY THAT ARE MAKING BIG POWER OR DECENT POWER MOSTLY ORIGINATED FROM ECONOMY CARS. WHICH IS WHAT, GOOD ENGINEERING? THEY THINK ECON FIRST THEN PERFORMANCE. UNLIKE AMERICANS WHO MOSTLY THINK POWER FIRST. HEY HOW ABOUT U GO N TAKE THAT 800HP, 10 SECOND CAMARO OR MUSTANG OR CHEVELLE, AND BRING IT TO A CIRCUIT TRACK. SEE WHAT TIMES U GET. AND THEN NOW U CAN TAKE ONE OF OUT 800HP SUPRA OR 600HP SILVIA THAT RUNS 11'S AND BRING IT ON THE TRACK. SURE U GUYS GOT QUICK TIMES, BUT HOW FUN IS IT GOING IN A STRAIT LINE FOR THE REST OF UR LIVES? YOU GUYS GET GREAT TIMES DUE TO SUSPENSIONS ARE STIFF, FAT SLICKS IN THE BACK. WE CAN DO AROUND THE SAME TIMES. AND STILL TAKE THEM TO THE TRACK. AND DRIVE IT DAILY DUE TO A BOOST CONTROLLER. I DONT THINK THERE IS SUCH THING AS A BOOST CONTROLLER FOR A SUPERCHARGED V8 6.0L BIG BLOCK. SO U GUYS BRING IT OUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
I NEVA HATED ON THE NEON SRT. PLUS THAT CAR ALSO SPORTS A MITSUBISHI TURBOCHARGER. CAVALIERS N SUNFIRES, I DONT KNOW ALOT ABOUT N I COULD CARE LESS. THEY MIGHT HAVE THE SAME ENGINE I DUNNO. WHO CARES. ALL I KNOW IS THAT THEY ARENT GREAT. THINK N SEE WHO DESIGNS GOOD CARS. DO U SEE FORD IN THE INDY500, I DONT THINK SO, OR DO U SEE FORD MAKING MOTORCYCLES? GENERATORS? AIRPLANE ENGINES? I WILL NOT HATE ON AMERICA, I LOVE THIS COUNTRY TO DEATH, BUT WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO CATCH UP TO JAPS. CAR VALUES MAY BE SET UP BUY SOME DUMB IDIOT WHO JUDGES CARS. BUT GUESS WHAT IF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THINK THE SAME N AGREE WITH THAT RATING, WHAT MAKES U THINK THAT THEY WILL LOOK N SAY HEY THAT CAR IS WORTH MORE, LEMME PAY MORE FOR IT. HMMM NO. THATS Y ITS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR YEARS. PEOPLE LOWER THE RESALE VALUE BECAUSE THATS WHAT PEOPLE WOULD PAY FOR IT, NOT CAUSE SOME MORON SAID SO. IT MAY NOT BE A BAD CAR, BUT ITS NOT THE BEST FOR THE MONEY. WOULD U LIKE TO BUY A NEW CAR FOR 15 GRAND THEN SELL IT IN TWO YEARS FOR 8 GRAND? OR WOULD U BUY A CAR THAT WONT HAVE ALOT OF PROBLEMS FOR 15 GRAND HAVE MORE GAS MILAGE, AND BE ABLE TO RESELL IT FOR 11 OR MORE? I ALSO AGREE U CAN DO A DECENT CAVALIER AS I SAID. BUT Y, SHIT I CAN GO BUY A GEO AND MAKE IT RUN 13'S, BUT Y. WHEN U CAN DO BETTER CHEAPER. I KNOW WHAT SLEEPERS ARE. MY GUYS GOT A STOCK CRX, WITH A BABY SEAT IN THE BACK N HUBS, THAT RUBS LOW 13'S. DONT MATTER WHAT IT IS IF U DID IT RIGHT U GET PROPS, BUT IF U DONT U DONT GET ANY. BUT THEN AGAIN Y. Y TRICK OUT A CHICK CAR WHEN U A DUDE? I LOOK AT IT LIKE, THE CAVALIER IS SOMETHING UR MOM N DAD BOUGHT U, THEN U SEE THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS, SO U GO N THROW A FAT BOOTLEG EXAUGHST THAT MAKES NOISE BUT LITTLE POWER, AND THAT UGLY BODY KIT. AND BY THE WAY THE SKYLINE GT-R ISNT BASED ON THE OLD SKYLINE. THEY TURNED IT INTO A SPORTS CAR. AND TAXIS IN JAPAN ARE NOT SKYLINES. ONLY A FEW COP CARS ARE SKYLINES IN ORDER TO CATCH SOME OF THOSE QUICK ASS HIGHWAY KINGS SEEN EVERYWHERE OVER THERE. HOW BOUT NEXT TIME U READ AND UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID.