Nate about two hours north. And the other dude.. man.. I don't care if there are 1st gens in the 8s... there is more to a car than drag racing... And I want to see where you're getting your info anyways? cuz if it's not on the stock engine I'm not talking with you anymore.. this topic was about the eclipses.. not an eclipse with a 3000gt engine in it or whatever..