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Originally posted by Tekone
You ran a 13.08 in a bone stock VR4? Not calling BS on you, but that is the best time I have ever heard of in a newer 3000GT. Most 3000GT's I have ever seen run high 13's to low 14's and trap around 100-103 mph. Maybe you have a freak.
Lets look at the stats. VR4's weigh in at around 3,750 lbs. They have 320 hp., 315 lb/ft. of torque and AWD. They trap a little above a Mustang GT (100-103 seems to be average). Because of the AWD, the parasitic loss is going to be greater. VR4's put around 240-250 hp. to the pavement because of the AWD drivetrain loss.
Lets compare the VR4 to a LS1 f-body of course. Weighs in around 3,450 lbs. Has in reality 350 hp. and 335-340 lb/ft. of torque and RWD. Puts around 300-310 hp. to the ground.
Your saying your VR4 runs the same time as an LS1 f-body in the quarter mile while weighing ~300 lbs. more, having ~50 less hp. and ~30 less lb/ft. of torque completly stock? Yes, out of the hole, your car will rape just about anything, and I am willing to bet that you cut 1.6-1.7 short times consistently, but after 30 mph. or so, your AWD becomes a disadvantage due to it's weight. Your 60' times help your trap speed and E.T., but I have a hard time seeing how a car trapping ~102 mph. stock is running low 13's. LS1 f-bodies run low 13's stock trapping around 105-106 consistantly. That's around ~4 mph faster. In the 1/4th, that is alot.
Inquiring minds want to know how modded you car really is.
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As I said in my post - it wasn't my car, its one that I've seen and you can probably track down the thread about it on
www.3si.org to see for yourself.
The AWD will not become a disadvantage till well after the 60ft mark. The times between the LS1 and VR4 in the quarter are virtually the same. The guys pulling high 13s and into the 14s don't know how to run the car to its best. They are a solid mid 13 second car and the one I saw was abnormal as I mentioned. One of a kind. Just like the rare LS1 that will crack the high 12s out of the box.
When these cars run the 1/4 its all down to the driver.
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