Thanks for the courtesy.I am glad to see that there are many sites out there with Maxima owners all helping each other.Before I got access to the internet I thought I was the only one with a Max because of all the Honda owners.But hey things change I hav now had my Max for 3 years....And plan on keeping it alot longer.Even If I were to sell my Max I would just get a 4th or 5th gen in replace.