New car

I gonna buy a new car but i wanna know what good car that is reliable for under $20,000. thanx!

20 grand will get you a lot, but i suggest a supra

TT 300ZX (Z32 generation), FD3S generation RX-7, Porsche 944 or 928, 4th generation Camaro Z-28 or even SS, SN-95 generation Mustang GT, most Supras, 4wd turbo Eclipses and their Talon brethren, older Mitsubishi 3000GT's/Dodge Stealths, Buick GNX's (don't laugh, these things are killers)....

The list can go on into many older beasts that are favorites of mine (RWD air-cooled Porsche 911 Carreras, for instance) but then you need to be willing to wrench a little bit. It's fun for some, but apparently not your cup of tea.

You don't sound to concerned with all out power, but you posted in the street racing forum, so i'm gonna go with a maxima or your various sentra se-r models, but you'll have to be much more specific on what you want before we can recomend anything that fits.

Is anyone else getting a little sick of these questions?

Originally posted by DeViL
Is anyone else getting a little sick of these questions?

Yes, all they turn into is yet another Import vs Domestic debate on what makes more power for less... It's getting old.

So to answer your question KOR_MAX, take your $20,000... Invest $1 in a Autotrader magazine, look for something you like. If you've got a question on a particular car. Ask away 95% of the time somebody on this forum can help you, Truth of the matter is we can't tell you whats right for you. Just about any car from the mid-90's to present is reliable. But truth is no car is 100% reliable. Things go wrong...

So I'd suggest looking into whatever car tickles your fancy, then see what a new crate motor for it costs. Then with that figure in mind, look for a car minus that cost plus some extra for odds and ends. So that way if you do get something that looks like it may need some work. You've got some extra set aside.

For Example, If I had a budget of $7000 while looking for a Truck. A Crate 350 V8 costs $1300. We'll say its $2000 even cause there's always extra costs and random parts that need to be replaced as well. That leaves me $5000 to look for a nice Truck. Obviously, if the car turns out to be a good runner and seems like its not going to fall apart in the next 50 miles. You can spend your left over cash freely.

Its how I would buy a used car that I had no idea about its history.

Let us know how your car hunt goes.

i'd say Trans AM WS6 or Supra

or if you wanna corner RX7 FD3S preferably Type R but otherwise any of them will do

Subaru's are too high sprung and if you mess with them incorrectly they lose power easily. 4WD's also Understeer alot

RWD is better to play around with.

The question is do you want straight line power with Blow off valve chirps or just a loud bubbling rumble coming from the exhaust belonging to a V8 ?

Good luck finding a Supra for under 20k that has not been torn to all hell! I say...guess...TTZ32 or the RX-7 You can find these from the low-mid to high teens. Plus you've got extra cash to throw on go fast parts! Or Octagon said a GNX...you won't find one! But, a Grand National on the other hand, you can pick up for 10k. Then you have a GN +$10k to spen to fix er' up....Neck snapping speed!

CLick!

Just my 2¢

Yeah, I got my SS for $26k when it was three months old with 3k miles on it, so I know you could find a Z28, SS, WS6, what have you, with an LS1 for less than 20 now. That's just one option. There's so many good cars out there that you really need to provide more info...rather than posting a question and not responding...

Personally, I would find an MKII Toyota MR2 Turbo that was in excellent condition. They look great, fun to drive and are decently quick.

Originally posted by DeViL
Is anyone else getting a little sick of these questions?

Poor attitude!

Under $20,000 best car for the buck Neon SRT-4!

Originally posted by DemonZX
Good luck finding a Supra for under 20k that has not been torn to all hell! I say...guess...TTZ32 or the RX-7 You can find these from the low-mid to high teens. Plus you've got extra cash to throw on go fast parts! Or Octagon said a GNX...you won't find one! But, a Grand National on the other hand, you can pick up for 10k. Then you have a GN +$10k to spen to fix er' up....Neck snapping speed!

CLick!

Just my 2¢

Agreed about the Supra. For one in good condition with good miles you'll be looking at closer to $30k.

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
i'd say Trans AM WS6 ...


YES WS6 KICKS ASS!! if you cant find one i think my dad still has some of the 2002 aniversary ones in stock at the place he works but it might be a lil more then 20...

TRD Celica....:D

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
Under $20,000 best car for the buck Neon SRT-4!

Ohh, someone beat me too it.

I do agree with every word that Redneck said.

Poor attitude!

not really...

this question has to be in here at least 20 times...

it's all about preference.

do you want a car that handles, that's quick in the corners, or on the straights?

do you want to spend about 20k, and not do anything to it, or spend 10k and drop 10k in mods.

there's not a really good answer if you don't have the parameters.

4WD's also Understeer alot

not true.

simple tuning mods like strut bars and sway bars fix this.

most cars are designed to understeer from the factory to save the "stupid" driver who doesn't know when he's over his head.

simple, cheap mods can fix that.

and if you want to oversteer in an awd car, get more power.

also, a Bozzspeed tuning trick, run the same size rims front and rear, but wider tires out back... let's the back slide out a little

Yeah its all preferance, you can make just about any car fast, but stock an SRT-4 does rock.

stock yes...

but you could get a 10k car, like a newer civic hatchback, 97ish...
drop a b16 in it and turbo it, and you're still at a lower price than the srt4, provided you price it right...

or a 240sx, with an sr20det conversion... you could get that setup for under 15 easy.

and both will outhandle the srt4.

and i'm a staunch defender of the neon, but if this guy's really got 20k sitting in his pocket to spend...

that's not ever really the case though...

so if you're going to finance up to 20k, you might as well get a new car like the neon... but if you've got the actual money, i recommend something older and modding it to your personal taste...

I'm starting to think it's the same person who always starts these threads. They post one subject and never say a damn word after it. Like they just sit back and watch as people begin to get into arguments.

I'm just getting sick of this crap. Kaoru watch the forums closely, I gurantee you this topic will again be posted at least a month from now.

i agree with you whole heartedly devil...

there are so many threads that are started by people with one post...

like the one about neons beating civics...

it's like 6 pages long, and the thread starter never replied.

not once.

we're a bunch of suckers... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by flylwsi
stock yes...

but you could get a 10k car, like a newer civic hatchback, 97ish...
drop a b16 in it and turbo it, and you're still at a lower price than the srt4, provided you price it right...

or a 240sx, with an sr20det conversion... you could get that setup for under 15 easy.

and both will outhandle the srt4.

and i'm a staunch defender of the neon, but if this guy's really got 20k sitting in his pocket to spend...

that's not ever really the case though...

so if you're going to finance up to 20k, you might as well get a new car like the neon... but if you've got the actual money, i recommend something older and modding it to your personal taste...

Oh so true...I've said it a million times before. It's easy for people to say buy a car for $10k then you have $10k left for mods! That would insinuate that someone has $20k in their wallet right now. I don't think too many people here can say they have 200 C-Notes in their billfold. You have to take that in to account. Financing is a different story. Since I"m assuming he has to finance the $20k like most of us, I say go for something newer, get the most you can for your money.

Damn Devil you want me to freakin reply so damn bad you erst bucket. Happy now. I think i'm going to think about the Neon for sure. unless i wanna save alot more and buy a used 2002 BMW M5.

I would also look into an RX7, you can do pretty well with the newer generation and still have some money left over for mods, that is of course if you actually have 20k like everyone else has said.

Damn Devil you want me to freakin reply so damn bad you erst bucket

what's up hostile?

at least 2-3 people said "what are the parameters for the car"

and you don't reply with them?

you want opinions, but you leave it wide open?

it's like asking if someone likes a certain author.
the answer will most likely be yes, but for different reasons.

that's why you NARROW DOWN YOUR QUESTION.

see how that works?

so is it really 20k you've got? are you financing? do you want a straight line car? do you want one that handles? strong aftermarket? what kind of mods?

answer these and we'll help.

suckers, hahah thats why i never answer these questions. they're always too damn specific. see if its something about honda's or nissan, then i'm in, but 20K is just too damn broad for me to give an honest and good answer.

hehe, i wouldnt suggest the rex for reliabilities sake.

But if you wanna go really fast on a 1.3 liter engine... that breaks a lot... get the rex!! yay!

Originally posted by Self


Oh so true...I've said it a million times before. It's easy for people to say buy a car for $10k then you have $10k left for mods! That would insinuate that someone has $20k in their wallet right now. I don't think too many people here can say they have 200 C-Notes in their billfold. You have to take that in to account. Financing is a different story. Since I"m assuming he has to finance the $20k like most of us, I say go for something newer, get the most you can for your money.

Exactly!

I am paying a mere $200 for my 90 GTC and it might cost me over $10,000 to get it where I want. I am going to have to take out a loan for some of this stuff. Like Self said, I don't even have the $200 in my wallet to pay for the car. I have sent the money out there to buy the car and now I wait. When I am done this car will be able to murder any stock vehicle on the road.

Does that make it better than an SRT-4 or any car for that matter? No, better for me, but everyone.

Originally posted by flylwsi


not true.

simple tuning mods like strut bars and sway bars fix this.




No 4WD's naturally understeer you can try to eliminate it but you'll always be forced to do an extremely aggresive turn in and total elimination is not possible its never gonna over steer. Simple tuning mods do not fix this

sorry, you're wrong.

you can tune anything out my friend.

active differentials can fix it, there's so much that can be done.

it's all about the parts the car uses.

you can tune it out.

if i can tune understeer out of an fwd car, you can tune it out of an awd car.

oh yeah, by the way...

where do you get that information?

i'd love to know where your knowledge is coming from, so i could possibly see the light on all of these topics myself...

video games don't count...

Originally posted by flylwsi

video games don't count...

Bullshit!

Video games have taught me everything I know...

For Example...

Cars have 4 wheels, Motorcyles dont.

Cars can crash repeatedly into walls from 140+mph and still be ok.

Cars can be tuned and parts swapped so easily just by the push of a button. Just like in real life.

Video games have taught me also that cops cant drive for squat and I can out run them always. Cause I've always got the cooler car. TAKE THAT COPPERS!!

Lets not forget, I'm a professional driver cause I've got the Super License from Gran Turismo 3: A Spec!

So there Mr. Man! Video games are a valid source of info!

:D

i stand corrected... :lol2:

Ahhh..........Gran Turismo 3.....

I miss my 180sx:(

I dont know about the rest of Redneck's info... But I know for a fact that you can crash your car at 140+mph and not have a dent. Just don't try crashing under 140 though.. that is usually disasterous.

Originally posted by flylwsi
oh yeah, by the way...

where do you get that information?

i'd love to know where your knowledge is coming from, so i could possibly see the light on all of these topics myself...

video games don't count...

Best Motoring Videos :finger: so i think you're wrong have you driven an AWD (Subaru WRX) i have and i agree with them. The way they drive AWD is completely different from driving RWD it requires a much more aggresive turn in and it's not that easy to tune either.

Maybe you should give it a try before spouting nonsense on forums or didn't GT A spec teach you that along with the other stuff you spout. :o

other stuff i spout?

really?

like what?

truth?

god, i hate when people spout the truth...

as i do in so many threads here...

you're saying all awd cars understeer.

then you say something retarded like "have you driven a wrx..."

i never said the wrx didn't understeer. it's fairly universally known that it does.

which can be tuned out. like i said.

i'm no video game junkie my friend. i learn my knowledge from reading, and more importantly, doing.

go drive an audi s4 and tell me if it understeers.

it doesn't.

awd dsm cars don't understeer either, but you wouldn't know, b/c you don't have those.