S60r

.. i realize that it seems no one posts in the volvo part of automotivefourms... so yea... well.. i just wanted to start a S60R post... any info.. pics.. TEST DRIVES (if you have i hate you).. and comparisons for this SAFE-BEAST.. yea. that's an oxymoron - is appreciated...

well... here's my comparison.. volvo S60R.. or audi S4?

i would take the s4 cause it is a sporty sedan and looks good with some nice rims

you just took looks into consideration..... how about gas milage, after-market, PRICE! put some more thought into it.. i'm kinda looking for a good discussion in this, what seems to be, unactive board.

Volvo S60R it has AWD the Turbo 5 that produces 300hp and a sports mode that changes suspension settings and a clever traction control system

obviously i don't think its gonna corner as fast as the Audi but the R will be fast all the same

Volvo needs to lower the center of gravity of their cars loose some weight and reposition the engine so as to achieve a close 50/50 blance
possibly 48/52 with just balance being the main factor then focus on utilising Computer Aided systems to make the car faster still

Subaru uses total overall balance
Mitsubishi uses computer controlled systems

since volvo won't be able to have nearly as good computer control systems a mix of the two would produce a seriously Agressive Quick responsive car that would put the M3 to shame

I'd also like them to use the S80's inline six twin turbo instead and boost it to 350 - 380 hp to make it have some meat,

Lets suppose they make a S60 i would like them to use these sort of parts

Although they'd still have to maintain volvo's safe car image. :o But Ford'll screw that up

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
I'd also like them to use the S80's inline six twin turbo instead and boost it to 350 - 380 hp to make it have some meat,

::drool::

Down here, Wheels Magazine has just driven the S60-R. They didn't mind it but basically said that the M3 and C32 don't have anything to worry about. Down here at least the Volvo doesn't cost anywhere near as much as the Germans, so the S60-R is really somewhere between a BMW 330i and a M3 for performance but priced around a 330i. Personally I'm a little disappointed in the styling, the PPC Showcar looked much more aggressive but Euro Performance sedans always seem to be designed to be a wolf in sheeps clothing.:)

the PPC show car was awesome

this bastid child does not live up to the name of its farther

It needs a slap

and a T6 engine

and maybe its 52/48 weight distribution

50/50 apparently inccurs understeer

They need to make it lighter. Aluminium maybe?

Do they use Steel i don't remember

I have an S60R. When it worked it was a great car to drive but in the two months that I have had the car it has been in the shop five times and now is completely undrivable. I am wondering if any other people have had problems with the chassis suspension and the computer?

I saw a bunch when i was in Sweden recently and i was amazed very nice looking cars.

I'm not too keen on the Air-ride suspension or whatever its called. I'd prefer shocks and Coilovers because there's less to go wrong.

Almost every brand new car comes out of the factory with little problems that usually are sorted out after a while.

Did you break it in? Did you have to break it in? What happened to it? Loss of power? I'm quite interested in what the problem is.

my friend has an S60R, and its fast as hell. I havn't been in an S4, so sorry, i can't compare to two. I really like how it has 3 preset suspention settings (comfort, sport, advance). He did a little hwy racing the other night against this Mustang GT. He had 4 people in the car, the Mustang only had 1 person and the Mustang couldn't keep up. Not too shabby for a $35k Volvo.

my friend has an S60R, and its fast as hell. I havn't been in an S4, so sorry, i can't compare to two. I really like how it has 3 preset suspention settings (comfort, sport, advance). He did a little hwy racing the other night against this Mustang GT. He had 4 people in the car, the Mustang only had 1 person and the Mustang couldn't keep up. Not too shabby for a $35k Volvo.


300hp vs 260hp not comparison.... hahaha nice tho.


on a different note
I beaten Mustangs with a T5 Volvo. that was fun.
I liked beating up on V6 mustangs driven by dumbfucks who don't realise their car is much slower. They looked like jackasses when i passed em cuz they were trying to cut me off and stop me from overtaking by getting in front and cutting me off didn't work though cuz their car sucked. Did i mention that V6 Mustangs suck?

My dad really wants one of these. Do you think there will be any performance upgrades for them? i wish they were faster, but know how fast the STi is and it has a 2.5 turbo 4, this is a 2.5 turbo 5. And probably built more sturdily as i know volvo's that run for 400,000 miles or more!!

performance upgrades: yes. Go check out www.evolvecars.com (http://www.evolvecars.com/)
The car is DEFINITELY not as fast as an STi. The STi's engine is a boxer style with massive turbo and intercooling. The volvo is a trans. mounted I-6 with not so massive turbos. It may be more sturdy, i don't know, but i do know that subes are almost bulletproof and quite reliable.
Another thing, those 400k mile volvos... they aren't turbo-ed. The turbocharging factor decreases the reliablity of the car, so i doubt that the new turbo-ed volvo engines will be as reliable as the old ones (don't quote me on this).

I-6????????

S60R has I5 with modified bits on it from the normal T5 (turbocharged inline five cylinder) www.kalmarunion.com
you can always buy a HKS turbine or Garret turbine and order the bits you need to fit it from someone else. It would be one hell of a job though

S60r auto= teh w0rst ev4r.

i just hope my dad doesnt get one of those.
sure they look cool, but then isnt that the point of a "ricer". All show, no go.

Why pay extra for brembo brakes, sport suspension and looks, if you are buying a car with 50 less lb ft of torque, and a chintzy automatic.

might as well just get the regular S60, buy the S60r brakes and your set.

on the other hand, if they had some sort of an "SMG" transmission THAT would be a cool choice over the manual.

I meant I-5... sorry abou that.

I have an S60R. When it worked it was a great car to drive but in the two months that I have had the car it has been in the shop five times and now is completely undrivable. I am wondering if any other people have had problems with the chassis suspension and the computer?

This is an old post but do you still have the car? I have a 2004 model bought in July 2003 and that is all my wife has had but suspension problems. Clunks, groans, squeals etc. Did Volvo do anything for you except tell you that they were "downloading a software patch"?

So after reading these last few posts I guess this fancy suspension isn't all that impressive is it? Shame cause I liked the S60 R ...

So after reading these last few posts I guess this fancy suspension isn't all that impressive is it? Shame cause I liked the S60 R ...

The car is at the dealership as we speak for the past two weeks. Over 51 days out of service and problems still exist. I am negotiating with the dealer to take the car back and buy an S80 AWD for my wife. While it would not be my choice, I need to have closure on this and she has no confidence in the car. I think that this is an individual problem and not necessarily the whole S60R production. In any event, it has been quite an experience.

how many psi is the wastegate set at? how much could the engine take? im sure jsut a boost controller would defiantely improve performance right? is the suspension all that bad? is it jsut a computer glitch thats messing with it?

Down here, Wheels Magazine has just driven the S60-R. They didn't mind it but basically said that the M3 and C32 don't have anything to worry about. Down here at least the Volvo doesn't cost anywhere near as much as the Germans, so the S60-R is really somewhere between a BMW 330i and a M3 for performance but priced around a 330i. Personally I'm a little disappointed in the styling, the PPC Showcar looked much more aggressive but Euro Performance sedans always seem to be designed to be a wolf in sheeps clothing.:)

It is too bad that the new BMW M5 isn't a wolf in sheep's clothing. The previous three were quite subtle and classy.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/volvo+850+R/0/72D33FFC-4A91-4A13-92FC-7B744D785777.htm

Its not S60 R, but it is damn fast volvo. He is spinning tires in the 3rd gear, the car is a true sleeper. I can imagine the expressions of some V8 owners when they get their butt handed to them by the 'safe' volvo.

The R car (S60 and V70) both run a small turbo only pushing about 5-7lbs of boost at WOT. It is a easy car to get more power out of IF you have the right equiptment handy. As for the suspension problems everyone has had, it is normal for a sports suspension to make noise, hell you should hear my 300ZX its suspension makes more noise than a box full of tree frogs. But my suspension is a bit high strung. Honestly I find most peoples problems with the R cars suspension is the fact they leave it in one position for extended periods of time, like months, and never ever change it becuase they want a SOFT ride. The R car wasnt meant to be a grociery get'r but a performance car, with some luxery bits. The R cars only major problem from my POV is that it IS heavy and it is aimed at the WRONG demigraphic. Its aimed at the middle aged, older, established driver. For 35+k its a bit pricey for what you get but it doesnt take much to make it what you want.

I just bought a 04 S60R and I have to say I love it. It isnt a ricer and if that is what you expecting then your out. I test drove a S4 before I bought this, they both were about the same price give or take. The S4 was faster on the straight away, but the Volvo had no body roll at 65mph in a S-turn. The volvo is loaded with alot of features that the S4 doesnt have. My buddy has a WRX modded, up pipe, down pipe, exhaust. I blew him away with out a problem. I will be purchasing a ECU upgrade kit, then go straight to up, down pipes, exhaust. Then if I dont have enough power then here I come HKS.

Yes I am experiencing problems with the computerized active suspension, very loud thump noise at the rear of the car when going over a moderate bump and at moderate speed, Volvo does not seem to be able to get a fix on this?????.

IPD - Oregan has stuff.