Taurus SHO VS. Integra GSR VS. Civic Hatch ZC

what do you guys think ? who would win. The SHO is a 93 manual and is stock with 150k on it. The GS-R is a 92 with a B16A (don't ask why the B17 was swapped out I DON'T KNOW !!!) Cold air Intake, DC Sports Headers, Exhaust,short shifter,and some other crap like NGK plugs, etc. and a 94 Civic Hatch with a ZC motor, Cold air intake, Prospeed muffler....that's it..... So who would win ? The guy with the SHO thinks his car is the fastest thing in the world. He actually tried to tell me that he could beat any Integra no matter what was done to it unless it was Turbo or Supercharged. I used to have a 91 SHO with some performance stuff and it was pretty fast but nothing too special. So what do you guys think ?

With my LS I could take a SHO until about 3/4's of the way down the 1/4 mile..... 4 of my friends have them and I always have about a car length until the end.... I would assume that a GSR has more top end then my car so it might be a good race....

if ur neck and neck till the very end in an LS then a gs-r would smoke em... 18 more horsepower plus vtec.. plus i heard that the 92 gs-r was the fastest gs-r ever made.. including the 3rd gen ones

i dont think a taurus could beat a stock integra down 400m unless there are v8 versions?

my friends old man owns 1, they comfy and handle well but dont have much balls at all. btw this one has a small v6 NA

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Taurus in general are slow but SHO's are very fast cars. They have 220 HP Yamaha Motors and most are 5 spd. I used to have one a year ago and that thing pulled like crazy. I think my acura pulls a little more but still for a taurus that was a very fast car.

Mmmmm...
The 92-93 GS-R came stock with the B16A. Awesome engine, good chassis, good tranny... but pushing 160hp/115lb-ft of torque up against the 220hp/180lb-ft of torque taurus (yamaha) SHO? I'd wager that it'll come down to driving, but if the drivers were even, the SHO would probably pull away, though it might not happen till 3rd gear.

92-93 GSR came with B17a, not B16a. but still 160 HP.

It's a shame that that incredible engine in the sho went into such a boring car, had it been in a smaller sportier car (along the lines of maybe a miata, but with 2+2 seating) it could have made for a rather exciting car. Depending on how far the race goes for would determine the victor, full 1/4 mile run would go to the sho, anything before that would be a coin toss

ok, well the ZC hatch is changin, now what do you think will win,

the SHO, the B16 GSR, or a 94 cx hatch with B20b, 10.5:1 pistons, LS 5 speed tranny, LS ECU, LS intake manifold, I/H/E.

the taurus would rip both of these cars apart.. i hate fords but a SHO
is fast!
i roasted 1 in my accord but once i hit 110 and my accord shifted to it's final drive he was gone. DAMN automatics

ok you're trying to tell me that you beat one in your automatic honda accord ?? sorry i don't really believe that. Plus I used to own an SHO that was not stock and it was still not as fast as my integra is now. Also the stock 1/4 mile time for a 92 SHO 5 spd. is only 15.8. In my Integra I hit a best of 14.7 the first time at the track. Sorry but if we're talking about a stock SHO here I'll beat him an my car would rip your to shreds.
I like Accords and everything but they're not exactly fast. You can make them fast of course but considering that you have an automatic in yours I don't think yours is very fast.

lol .. to read u people post this bullshit about ur integras smoking a sho ... keep dreaming... unless you have some mods... including a turbo or blower. or nos. your not going to win. you might hang till the end of 2nd gear.. in fact i know . ive have a 92 with 150 miles on it. i have prof plugs wires subframe mods drop springs mustang mass air flow sensor with ram air mod. about 235 hp i rip hondas everyday.... integra's civics whatever. lol heres an idea for u people. buy a car with more then 160hp. then mod it ....my sho runs a mid 14 if i put wet kit on it i would break 13 easy...they run tens supercharged... lol and my car has full interior. ill smoke ur integra with my ac on ....

You do realize this thread is over a year old...right?

holy dead thread revival batman!

Curb weight 3380 lbs.6.6 0-60 and 15.2 in a 1/4 mile on a cool day below sea level goin down hill with a bolder in the trunk


.my crx ran faster than that when i got my swap done160hp and my car weighs 1975lbs.look little kid with that pig of a car.im surprised that the ford could live for 150k.oh thats right your motor was built by yamaha a jap company.get a life and stop bringin up a thread that is over a year old.go stroke your little u no what with your ac on.im sure that will let you run atleast 13's with a girl.

i guess u forgot those are stats from a stock sho? lol whats the stock time for a cr-x ... 16.5? so your point is????

and i have no beef with imports .. the best thing about my car is the engine. and with the mods ive done . bring me down to 14.5 as i said with full interior. sorry if i hit a nerve or something dude. im just saying this car is fast . ford and yamaha did a great job all around. and with minor tweaks you can easly improve 0.60 , im not sure what mine is . but i raced a wrx and was maybe two car lengths behind at 120mph
im just saying its a great car. peace

at 120 is not the WRX's strong point, AWD helps traction, not top speed at all. and I personally think the SHO is isnt great all around, I mean sure it is fast, and yamaha did good with the engine I guess(never really heard how many miles you get out of them so I dont know) but I never hear the words "ford did a great job" I am in a family of imports, subies, nissans, and hondas all around pretty much, a couple of ford trucks which do good, but all 4 ford cars that have been in the family, 3 of them the tranies went out at under 110k, and the other ford was just cheap, all the plastic broke from the use of how they are supposed to be used, plus the tranny was about to go out it seemed like, TQ lockuop made the car shake SO SO VIOLENTLY, and al opur hondas/nissans have over 130k at least, some 230k, my uncles yota truck has 411k on original everything.

can we all say "necrophiliec".

.my crx ran faster than that when i got my swap done160hp and my car weighs 1975lbs.look little kid with that pig of a car.im surprised that the ford could live for 150k.oh thats right your motor was built by yamaha a jap company.get a life and stop bringin up a thread that is over a year old.go stroke your little u no what with your ac on.im sure that will let you run atleast 13's with a girl.
i agree. i do give them credit though, they can hang with us but not beat us. i will help push that sho across the finish line wit my teg. maybe that will get you that 14.5

lol b18. DON'T BRING UP OLD THREADS

Yup, stop bragging about SHO, just because you own it. I've seen what an SHO can do, and wut a teg can do. Stop being a kid, and don't brag about wut you got. Sometimes you gotta admit that your car is not always better than the others. Lol

And one more thing, sorry to say that. But Taurus does look real ugly. So for the look, Integra wins all the way already. It's just the truth...Peace.

um for you information buddy. the engine block was made by ford . its the same v6 you can find in any ranger or v6 mustang. they shipped it to yamaha and they hooked it the fuck up. the first engine yamaha sent back to ford hadf 300 hp. but ford at the time 92 .. didnt want a sedan that could outrun there 5.0 mustang. all i ahve to do is replace the cams... and bam 300 hp. and thats the stock time for an sho my has mods ... and i run a 14.5 so bite me crx boy....oh yeah whats the stock time for a crx???? 16.5 slooooowwww

they shipped it to yamaha and they hooked it the fuck up. the first engine yamaha sent back to ford hadf 300 hp. but ford at the time 92 .. didnt want a sedan that could outrun there 5.0 mustang. all i ahve to do is replace the cams... and bam 300 hp.
Sounds to me like you just pulled that out of your a$$. Why would Ford downgrade a motor they payed a big company to upgrade for them? Proof? And we get it, you think your car is the bomb. Well good for you, all that matters is that you think it's fast and that you can beat all the ricer civics in your area. When you beat a crx with and ITR engine or a civic with a gsr/turbo then you should feel proud of yourself. Otherwise you're just another ignorant cocky domestic car driver that knows nothing about foreign cars. Move on.

damn that CRX is HOT!!

cheese

hey spoon boy ....we were talking about a stock race here ...witch means the sho would win ... it has a better stock time then the teg or the crx ..... and ford did downgrade the engine.... do some homework on the car....shoclub.com ... shotimes.com shonut.com . and i like inports . i also own a cr-x ... and its really sad that u people think hondas are the only cars on the road you can tune.. so so sad

lol your turbo comment proves my point even more i stated before the only way ur civics will out run a sho is with alot of work and a turbo... lol.... thanks for clearing that up

will you shut up already? is the only reason your here to stir up shit?

THIS IS AN OLD THREAD LET IT DIE AND READ USER GUIDELINES!!!!! this thread should have never been brought back up it is very old. please stop posting in it. if you want to start a conversation talking about this or a similar topic just start a new thread its not hard, but for heaven's sake please don't bring up the old ones.

There are naturally aspirated SHO engines with over 300hp ,and supercharged ones at 350-500 hp area. Rumors tell that SHOshop has dynoed a customer after heavy modifications at over 500 wheel hp = 600+ hp at the crank. Of course the engine doesn´t have a long life expectancy but at 600+ hp who cares!

Despite the obvious performance nature of the engine it is still easy to drive daily even with some modifications.



History

Over the years, there has been a lot of speculation with the regard to the origin and capabilities of the SHO engine. Looking back at the 11 years since the engine introduction to the world, we can confirm some rumors and dispel others.

The SHO engine is not based on a Formula 1 prototype. The SHO will only rev to 12,500 rpm once and it will not last 300,000 miles. On the other hand, it is a very good design with a strong rotating assembly where the crankshaft and connecting rods are forged, and the pistons are high-quality castings. The cylinder heads feature exceptional airflow. " Achieving 100 hp per liter is possible in street trim. " with the use of the original yamaha cams. ford replaced these cams and droped the hp to 220.
Below 4000rpm the engine uses only the long runners to produce good torque at low engine speeds. At 4000rpm the butterfly valves for the short runners are opened and the engine can breathe freely all the way to and over the 7000rpm redline. Other main features include DIS ignition and 9.8:1 compression and 4-valve heads with four camshafts. The intake cams are driven by the timing belt but the exhaust cams are driven by chains from intake cams. The valves are shim adjusted, there commended adjustment interval is 60.000 miles but later 3.2 ATX engines had a 100.000 mile recommendation.

The engine is not a hopped up stock engine like in most "performance" models. Ford did try to modify the 3.0 Vulcan engine for higher power levels and four-valva heads but luckily the block was too weak and the development was turned over to Yamaha. Therefore it is overbuilt and has no durability problems despite the rather high revving nature of the engine. Ford has also done pretty much everything to reduce the power output of the Yamaha built engine. The stock exhaust is about as bad as possible with sharp 90 degree bends and very small diameter curves in the catback part of exhaust. The original MAF is also only 55mm in diameter which may be barely enough but larger MAFs definitely help.

trying to get some picks up for you guys

did you not read what I just posted? stop posting in this thread... eh forget it, i'm just gonna go find a mod to close it for us.

did you not read what I just posted? stop posting in this thread... eh forget it, i'm just gonna go find a mod to close it for us.

lol .. i just smoked yet another integra ... it was fast but .. no top end . he had me uo till the end of second. why close this thread.

90gs
my 91 integra gs with intake and exhaust ran 16.86@82.64 on my first run and 16.794@82.689 (got the slips here)



Roestreyev
I have a stock 96 RS 5 spd. On the 1/4 mile, if you take the reaction time off, my best of 3 runs was 16.025 @ 82.5 mph. But I shifted in 4th gear a little early on that run. One of my books says 15.8 is the best time you can get with my car.

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well, is yours sedan or hatchback? if sedan it isnt TOO bad, I think the sedan is like 200 pounds more or so? not sure off hand but there is an average of .2 seconds more right there, and I saw a couple of LS hatches running 16 flat with just short ram intake. even though the RS is lighter I believe it is not much lighter, so shouldnt bee too much quicker there. so yours stock running a 16.7 is alright, I dont see an intake dropping .7 and watching these guys launch i believe they could do better so after time you should do alot better, but at least you arent up in the 17's.

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lol you foolsare saying a 16.7 is alright . hahaa. but a stock sho at 15.2 is no good . lol get ur facts str8 before u go asking stupid questions like who would win in a 1/4 mile drag .a crx , integra or an sho . well do some homework on those stock times and ...well you know.. sho's take the cake.


you can make anything fast it just takes money.

see u on the road

you stupid noob nobody cares and as to why thios thread should be closed... go read user guidelines as I said earlier, old threads being brought back to life by a piece of crap troll such as yourself are to be closed, now go away if you really feel the need to post all this worthless crap open a new thread.


oh and by the way my integra ran a 15 flat stock at sea level when I first bought it with 140,000 miles on the engine everything original and I mean everything. sorry was 3 years ago and no I don't have 3 year old slip oh well. now stfu please.

yeah..15 stock lol liar liar

No, his car is easily capable of a 15 second pass. Look up the specs.

You're only assuming hondas are slow because you're comparing your car to RS', GS' and, LS'.

Seriously though 92sho, I have no disrespect for you or your car; SHO's are by no means half assed cars, but they're also not the fastest things on the road as you make them out to be.

If you're going to compare your cars to ours, compare them to:

Integra GSR's
Integra Type-R's
RSX Type-S
Prelude VTEC

All of which make low 15 second passes stock, and are easily capable of high 14's with a comptetent driver.

well said....

ok, nopw that thats settled let this damn thread die already.

ZC civic hatch would kill them all.

okay everyone look!!!!!

a 1992 integra gs-r runs 15.8
a 1993 integra gs-r runs 15.2

and newer year runs aout 15.6 or 5.8 stock

thats horse shit !! my friend was running 15 flat bone stock in his GSR with not so good tires ... after just some cam gears and better tires and intake he was at 14.8 consistantly .... an SI civic runs like 15.5 or 15.8 , but not the GSR

lol im stoned... a stock sho runs a 15.2 whoohoo :) take a bong hit now!!!!

lol that guy i eat civics eats alot suv's damn man you smoked a silvarado. wow your car is fast

how does the 1993 GSR run the 1/4 .6 faster than the the 92? same cars? and they run like 15 flat if you can drive.

and actually the ZC hatch lost to them both because it wasnt a 4th gen hatch, it was a 2200 pound 5th gen hatch, plus the engine was worn out like something fierce, yes I know all this because the hatch is mine(no ZC anymore though) and the GSR and SHO were my friends cars. but the GSR wasnt the B17, and the SHO who knows, so we raced, what happened happened, NO ONE POST IN THIS TOPIC ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol im stoned... a stock sho runs a 15.2 whoohoo :) take a bong hit now!!!!


lol im not stoned my friend ran 15.1 but this site of a bunch of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times says its 15.2 . and hey ya know what? a fuckin silvarado is a truck lol and the dumbfuck wanted to race me.

lol im not stoned my friend ran 15.1 but this site of a bunch of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times says its 15.2 . and hey ya know what? a fuckin silvarado is a truck lol and the dumbfuck wanted to race me.

WHO CARES, SHUTUP AND QUIT BRINGING THIS TOPIC TO THE TOP PLEASE!!!!

i'll end it...

have a nice day...