N Korea *sigh*

Reprocessing fuel rods so they can make Nuclear bombs as a deterent
to the US


This isn't going to be pretty they're doing it so they don't get invaded i think them having nuclear weapons or building them is whats going to get them invaded if George Bush thinks it a threat.

Although I really do think there should be no more wars for a long time. The leader of N.Korea has to be getting on a bit hasn't he?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2959017.stm

Can't remember the last time the U.S. was crazy enough to go to war against a nuclear-armed country.I'd say that strategically,building as many nukes as they can and scattering them throughout North Korea is the best hope for them to maintain control of their own country.Let Mr. Bush take out the softer targets first,hopefully he will get booted out of office before he sets us all on course for Armagheddon.

Originally posted by taranaki
Can't remember the last time the U.S. was crazy enough to go to war against a nuclear-armed country.I'd say that strategically,building as many nukes as they can and scattering them throughout North Korea is the best hope for them to maintain control of their own country.Let Mr. Bush take out the softer targets first,hopefully he will get booted out of office before he sets us all on course for Armagheddon.

No booting forthcoming. Looking forward to his reelection and continued presidency.

it would be better if he didn't run around invading countries that he deems a threat

It's a bit paranoid i might add :o

Originally posted by YogsVR4


No booting forthcoming. Looking forward to his reelection and continued presidency.

Dodged the issues again Yogs,we know you love Mr Bush,but what are your thoughts on taking on another nuclear-armed country?

Originally posted by taranaki


Dodged the issues again Yogs,we know you love Mr Bush,but what are your thoughts on taking on another nuclear-armed country?

o come on the answer to that question is easy

fine if YOGS doesn't answer then i will


F***ING STUPID AND SUICIDAL

I do not think that the U.S. or Korea would be stupid enough to use them. Korea is using it as leverage power to keep us shipping food to them; however they should be worried about China!

Originally posted by YogsVR4


No booting forthcoming. Looking forward to his reelection and continued presidency.
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Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


o come on the answer to that question is easy

fine if YOGS doesn't answer then i will


F***ING STUPID AND SUICIDAL

That was an amazingly brilliant post. The reason we won't go to war with North Korea is because it is a totally different war than any we have ever fought before. We can't invade them. And we can't bomb at close range. We will have to indiscriminately bomb them just so our planes can fly high enough to not get hit. And our ground operations will be virtually nil.


This war, and I know Taranaki will love this, is and will be fought with words. I believe North Korea will back down.

Originally posted by YogsVR4


...Looking forward to his reelection and continued presidency.

At least someone is
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars


At least someone is
:rolleyes:

You mean you're not?:D :D

Originally posted by Pick


You mean you're not?:D :D
I am:D
Happy Easter everyone!

Originally posted by TexasF355F1

I am:D
Happy Easter everyone!
Happy Easter!!!

I am

Me too!

Originally posted by Pick


You mean you're not?:D :D

Nope:D I know there are a lot of people who support the man, but I just dont like Bush. Never have, probably never will. Some would say "well, you just dont understand him." If you dont like someone, then you dont like them. Sorry to all those pro-bush people, but that's how I feel.

I won't be voting for him.;)

Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars


Nope:D I know there are a lot of people who support the man, but I just dont like Bush. Never have, probably never will. Some would say "well, you just dont understand him." If you dont like someone, then you dont like them. Sorry to all those pro-bush people, but that's how I feel.

That's cool.:) Your loss.

Originally posted by Pick

Your loss.

not to me;)

What we have here is an insurmountable difference of opinions.You are both within your right to vote which ever way you like,and both of your votes have equal merit.So let's draw a line under this argument and leave this thread open for those who have anything of substance to add.;)

Originally posted by taranaki
What we have here is an insurmountable difference of opinions.You are both within your right to vote which ever way you like,and both of your votes have equal merit.So let's draw a line under this argument and leave this thread open for those who have anything of substance to add.;)

OK

Originally posted by taranaki
I won't be voting for him.;)
LOL, well of course you won't. Even if you lived here you wouldn't. But I bet you could find some way to make vote in the U.S. all the way from N.Z.;)

Originally posted by tomlong
I do not think that the U.S. or Korea would be stupid enough to use them. Korea is using it as leverage power to keep us shipping food to them; however they should be worried about China!

China wouldn't give a rats ass if they had nukes if they presented a threat they'd be gone. :o

Taranaki, would you support a conflict with N. Korea if they actually threatened to use nuclear warfare against the US? Do you think most of the world would? How about dropping a nuke on them first, pre-emptively?

If you did say no to any of these questions, what are the circumstances that would change your mind? If they attacked first?

I'm not trying to prove any points, just requesting your thoughts.

Originally posted by Prelewd
Taranaki, would you support a conflict with N. Korea if they actually threatened to use nuclear warfare against the US? Do you think most of the world would? How about dropping a nuke on them first, pre-emptively?

If you did say no to any of these questions, what are the circumstances that would change your mind? If they attacked first?

I'm not trying to prove any points, just requesting your thoughts.

I'm opposed to any form of pre-emptive defence.The term is an oxymoron.Military forces should exist soley to keep the peace,both at home and through the work of the United Nations.

If the U.N. were to decide that Norh Korea were a threat,I'd back a peacekeeping operation to the hilt.But I don't have any faith whatsoever in leaving the decision to George Bush.

I would never,under any circumstances ever,at all, sanction the use of nuclear weapons.In my view,they are EVIL, and the manufacture and possession of such equipment is an offence against humanity.

Originally posted by taranaki


I'm opposed to any form of pre-emptive defence.The term is an oxymoron.Military forces should exist soley to keep the peace,both at home and through the work of the United Nations.



BUT THEY DON'T That is the problem. Countries can't live in peace and the U.N. is as useless as using sticky note to wipe your ass.

Originally posted by Pick


BUT THEY DON'T That is the problem. Countries can't live in peace and the U.N. is as useless as using sticky note to wipe your ass.

If george put as much money and effort into the U.N. as he has into his crusade in the Middle East,he could help to make it far more effective than his bombing campaign.

Originally posted by taranaki


If george put as much money and effort into the U.N. as he has into his crusade in the Middle East,he could help to make it far more effective than his bombing campaign.

Seems like then people would say he's trying to buy out the UN, and would still call him a bad person. Sucks to be republican..

Originally posted by Pick


BUT THEY DON'T That is the problem. Countries can't live in peace and the U.N. is as useless as using sticky note to wipe your ass.

only if you think like that is there a problem

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


only if you think like that is there a problem

Well what else is someone to think? I don't think anyone here can argue that countries can't get along in peace; at any given time there are a few wars raging somewhere on the planet for various reasons. And to go along with that, please provide any evidence of the UN's ability to stop these wars, and especially without the principle involvement of the US.

I used to think the UN was a good idea in principle, but now I believe it to be a glorified debate society without the moral dignity to even enforce it's own charter on member states. Prove me wrong there .

China wouldn't give a rats ass if they had nukes if they presented a threat they'd be gone.

Than why is China looking to have talks between China, US, and N. Korea?

I would never,under any circumstances ever,at all, sanction the use of nuclear weapons.In my view,they are EVIL, and the manufacture and possession of such equipment is an offence against humanity.

I agree that they should never be used. In fact I think they should all be destroyed, but this will never happen.

I used to think the UN was a good idea in principle, but now I believe it to be a glorified debate society without the moral dignity to even enforce it's own charter on member states.

I agree with this also the reason being is that their are to many different thoughts, opinions, and political agendas for anything to ever be decided on. They are still debating issues from 10 years ago.

If the UN drops the ball and doesn't jump on this situation, it will die. I can forgive the stupidity with how the UN handled the Iraq situation before Bush decided he wasn't going to wait, but if they don't do something here, it should die a quick death. The US shouldn't be the only one trying to set up talks with North Korea, especially since, at least in this case, there is no doubt about the WMD that are being made illegally.

China and south Korea are involved in the talks as well less we forget and Japan has a large interest in the situation

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
China and south Korea are involved in the talks as well less we forget and Japan has a large interest in the situation

I think Japan is with us in this situation. They have economic interests.

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
China and south Korea are involved in the talks as well less we forget and Japan has a large interest in the situation
N. Korea wants to meet with S. Korea as well to try and end their long term fued. But I saw on t.v. that people in S. Korea still have a strong hatred of them, burning their flags and other things as well.

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
China and south Korea are involved in the talks as well less we forget and Japan has a large interest in the situation

China is just acting as a mediator at the moment, South Korea and Japan are both afraid of being targeted by North Korea. Don't you think the UN should be trying to set-up talks though?

Originally posted by inferno


China is just acting as a mediator at the moment, South Korea and Japan are both afraid of being targeted by North Korea. Don't you think the UN should be trying to set-up talks though?

I completely agree. Its time for the UN to step up to the plate. Have they taken any steps to alleviate the situation in North Korea? I don't know personally...anyone have any credible info about what the UN is actually doing regarding the North Korea crisis.

Originally posted by TexasF355F1

N. Korea wants to meet with S. Korea as well to try and end their long term fued. But I saw on t.v. that people in S. Korea still have a strong hatred of them, burning their flags and other things as well.

South Korea doesn't exactly like the United States either.

China dislikes North Korea but Japan is worried because the North Korea's have ballistic missiles that reach as far as Japan and Japan has to the rely on US Military Involvement should war break out because the Japanese do not have a Military of their own

Here is some updated info on the situation.


http://www.msnbc.com/news/850567.asp?0cv=CB10