Chrysler Crossfire vs Audi TT
crayzayjay
04-14-2003, 02:02 PM
Chrysler Crossfire or Audi TT? Which will it be?
The Crossfire is said to be a harder-edged driving tool, but im having trouble getting past those looks... what do you guys think?
The Crossfire is said to be a harder-edged driving tool, but im having trouble getting past those looks... what do you guys think?
SuPeRcAr_MaN
04-14-2003, 03:33 PM
I am going with the TT on this one. Not that the TT's looks are very conservative, but the Crossfire's style is a little... weird for my tastes. I would imagine the TT being the better driver???
BigJustinZ28
04-14-2003, 04:57 PM
I actually like the look of the crossfire , it looks pretty badass in my opinion :)
SuPeRcAr_MaN
04-14-2003, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by BigJustinZ28
I actually like the look of the crossfire , it looks pretty badass in my opinion :)
I agree, but it can be both badass and weird...
I actually like the look of the crossfire , it looks pretty badass in my opinion :)
I agree, but it can be both badass and weird...
flylwsi
04-14-2003, 06:14 PM
hmm...
i like the looks of the crossfire, but you can't argue with quattro and a nice turbo motor that can easily take 400-500hp...
i voted crossfire, b/c i really hope there's potential, and i like the look...
but i like the tt b/c of the motor/drivetrain
i like the looks of the crossfire, but you can't argue with quattro and a nice turbo motor that can easily take 400-500hp...
i voted crossfire, b/c i really hope there's potential, and i like the look...
but i like the tt b/c of the motor/drivetrain
90EX
04-14-2003, 10:18 PM
The Crossfire looks cool, but I think the Audi will out perform it.
Neutrino
04-14-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by 90EX
The Crossfire looks cool, but I think the Audi will out perform it.
what you guys forget is that the crossfire has an AMG engine.
The Crossfire looks cool, but I think the Audi will out perform it.
what you guys forget is that the crossfire has an AMG engine.
flylwsi
04-14-2003, 11:22 PM
no, it has a mercedes engine. not an AMG engine.
those are two very different things...
those are two very different things...
Neutrino
04-14-2003, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
no, it has a mercedes engine. not an AMG engine.
those are two very different things...
thanks for telling me that. Ok let me refrase it its a mercedes engine tuned by AMG happy now?:rolleyes:
no, it has a mercedes engine. not an AMG engine.
those are two very different things...
thanks for telling me that. Ok let me refrase it its a mercedes engine tuned by AMG happy now?:rolleyes:
Jimster
04-15-2003, 01:02 AM
The Crossfire looks rather nice IMHO-but I still think I'd take the TT for- like flywsi said- its drivetrain/engine :)
YogsVR4
04-15-2003, 10:35 AM
Those TT look to much like a Bug to me. I am not a fan of their styling at all. I know its strength lies under the hood, but I cant get past its looks.
NISSANSPDR
04-15-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by crayzayjay
Chrysler Crossfire or Audi TT? Which will it be?
The Crossfire is said to be a harder-edged driving tool
Umm...I dunno if it'd consider the Audi TT a tool...it weighes 3500 lbs...and is rather slow for having 225HP AWD...0-60 in 6.4 seconds...course it's tuneable to get more...but we never said aftermarket possibilities...just which is the better tool...
I think the Crossfire (3000 lb curb weight and RWD) would get the nod...since the Audi is more a status symbol and for rich guys wives rather than a real driver's car
Chrysler Crossfire or Audi TT? Which will it be?
The Crossfire is said to be a harder-edged driving tool
Umm...I dunno if it'd consider the Audi TT a tool...it weighes 3500 lbs...and is rather slow for having 225HP AWD...0-60 in 6.4 seconds...course it's tuneable to get more...but we never said aftermarket possibilities...just which is the better tool...
I think the Crossfire (3000 lb curb weight and RWD) would get the nod...since the Audi is more a status symbol and for rich guys wives rather than a real driver's car
SilverLotus340R
04-15-2003, 12:07 PM
i voted crossfire..
i love the look and the engine is decent. Im sure alot of the AMG parts would work with the crossfires engine..
the TT is ok in my opinion it just doesnt..look right..to me ...and with the new colors they are coming out with..like that disgusting orange thy are showing in the magazines..no thanks
i love the look and the engine is decent. Im sure alot of the AMG parts would work with the crossfires engine..
the TT is ok in my opinion it just doesnt..look right..to me ...and with the new colors they are coming out with..like that disgusting orange thy are showing in the magazines..no thanks
BigJustinZ28
04-15-2003, 12:10 PM
i didnt even think about the rw and awd difference , in that case I'll take the crossfire definately I prefer rear wheel drive , I like to smoke em :).
SuPeRcAr_MaN
04-15-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by BigJustinZ28
... I like to smoke em :).
True, bot not a reason to buy a car...
... I like to smoke em :).
True, bot not a reason to buy a car...
BigJustinZ28
04-15-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by SuPeRcAr_MaN
True, bot not a reason to buy a car...
it is if your me :D i want to have fun and doughnuts are fun lol although if it has tcs of somesort it better have a switch . Also , seriously , I just prefer the feeling of a rwd car ,the way it pushes along , everyone has thier preference. :)
True, bot not a reason to buy a car...
it is if your me :D i want to have fun and doughnuts are fun lol although if it has tcs of somesort it better have a switch . Also , seriously , I just prefer the feeling of a rwd car ,the way it pushes along , everyone has thier preference. :)
flylwsi
04-15-2003, 04:22 PM
the crossfire has a mercedes engine in it, not an AMG engine.
i'm repeating myself, b/c it's not an AMG spec motor. it's simply one from the mercedes line.
find a quote that says it's an AMG motor in the crossfire, and then i'll admit i'm wrong. i just read an article on it, and it's the same motor as in the SLK, i believe, but it doesn't say it's an AMG motor.
AMG does not tune all merc motors.
i'm repeating myself, b/c it's not an AMG spec motor. it's simply one from the mercedes line.
find a quote that says it's an AMG motor in the crossfire, and then i'll admit i'm wrong. i just read an article on it, and it's the same motor as in the SLK, i believe, but it doesn't say it's an AMG motor.
AMG does not tune all merc motors.
Neutrino
04-15-2003, 05:55 PM
a road and track article said that the crosfire gets an AMG engine.
SuPeRcAr_MaN
04-15-2003, 07:52 PM
The Car and Driver article on the Crossfire says nothing, except that is is built on the SLK Roadster platform. But I am pretty sure I heard or read somewhere that it is a normal Mercedes engine, nothing about AMG... Don't quote me on this, because I am not 100% sure...
Does all this mean the car will drive like a Mecedes SLK???
Does all this mean the car will drive like a Mecedes SLK???
Neutrino
04-15-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by SuPeRcAr_MaN
Does all this mean the car will drive like a Mecedes SLK???
not necesarily just look at the difference between an evo an a normal lancer.
Does all this mean the car will drive like a Mecedes SLK???
not necesarily just look at the difference between an evo an a normal lancer.
crayzayjay
04-16-2003, 12:00 PM
From what ive read the Crossfire is a better driving tool than the TT. I wouldnt know cos i havent driven one. The TT is based on a golf platform, the blown 4's are decent, but the 3.2 V6 is the one to go for. I liked the Crossfire the first time i saw the pics but that impression didnt last long...
flylwsi
04-16-2003, 04:42 PM
as stated in autoweek...
www.autoweek.com
"The drivetrain features the same 3.2-liter, three-valve sohc V6 found in the C-Class, the ML, the CLK and about a hundred thousand other Mercedes products. It’s a good, smooth, powerful workhorse of an engine that does many things well in many different cars. But because the Crossfire was put together in less than two years, there was no time—and who could justify the money—to design an engine specifically for it. Thus, the 3.2 falls just short of what you might expect in a sports car, but not too terribly short. It makes 215 horsepower at 5700 rpm and 229 lb-ft of torque at 3000 revs. That isn’t bad for a nice V6 but the Crossfire weighs 3060 pounds. Thus, the power-to-weight ratio also falls short of being sports car-ish, at 14.2 pounds per horse. A high-performance sports car should be down closer to 12 or even 10. "
i don't see A M or G in there...
www.autoweek.com
"The drivetrain features the same 3.2-liter, three-valve sohc V6 found in the C-Class, the ML, the CLK and about a hundred thousand other Mercedes products. It’s a good, smooth, powerful workhorse of an engine that does many things well in many different cars. But because the Crossfire was put together in less than two years, there was no time—and who could justify the money—to design an engine specifically for it. Thus, the 3.2 falls just short of what you might expect in a sports car, but not too terribly short. It makes 215 horsepower at 5700 rpm and 229 lb-ft of torque at 3000 revs. That isn’t bad for a nice V6 but the Crossfire weighs 3060 pounds. Thus, the power-to-weight ratio also falls short of being sports car-ish, at 14.2 pounds per horse. A high-performance sports car should be down closer to 12 or even 10. "
i don't see A M or G in there...
SuPeRcAr_MaN
04-16-2003, 07:27 PM
Finally, someone comes out with the proof. Whatever engine is in it, the Crossfire should be a pretty good driving 'tool'.
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