Friend's mp3 Player now a melted piece of goo!
RidingOnRailz
03-05-2010, 06:22 PM
Where do I begin....
Oh. First while I get the stink of melted plastic and printed circiout board out of my head! My friend brought his I-Pod in the car and charged it through the cigarette lighter - one end fits in the lighter and the other end has 2 USB ports for charging two mp3 devices. Well we listened to it while it charged as we drove across Weschester county. We left it in the car, attached to the charger & cigarrette lighter while we visisted a friend at her birthday party.
3 hours later we came out to his car and the i-pod was melted and dripping down the sides of the center console between the freckin front seats!!! This thing coulda caught on fire, which would have attracted the Yonker's FD to the birthday party, but instead it just smouldered and became a part of this 2000 Accord's interior. As mentioned previously the smell was something you had to be there to believe!!
WTHeck happened??
Oh. First while I get the stink of melted plastic and printed circiout board out of my head! My friend brought his I-Pod in the car and charged it through the cigarette lighter - one end fits in the lighter and the other end has 2 USB ports for charging two mp3 devices. Well we listened to it while it charged as we drove across Weschester county. We left it in the car, attached to the charger & cigarrette lighter while we visisted a friend at her birthday party.
3 hours later we came out to his car and the i-pod was melted and dripping down the sides of the center console between the freckin front seats!!! This thing coulda caught on fire, which would have attracted the Yonker's FD to the birthday party, but instead it just smouldered and became a part of this 2000 Accord's interior. As mentioned previously the smell was something you had to be there to believe!!
WTHeck happened??
shorod
03-05-2010, 09:03 PM
Was it a real iPod or a knock off? If a real iPod, was he using the OEM USB cable or something different?
A real iPod (and I suspect most knock offs as well) use a Lithium Ion (Li-ion) or Lithium Polymer (LiPo) battery. This battery technology, while great for high drain applications or where size and/or weight are important, is a great fit. Unfortunately, it's somewhat sensitive to charge and discharge status as well as temperature, shorting, and in the case of early technology packs, impact.
A true iPod, and probably most of the clones, will incorporate a voltage cutoff and charge circuit internal to the player, so that should not be the problem unless there was a malfunction in that circuit. Also I don't think the MP3 players really became very popular before the Lithium batteries were no longer as much a threat from impacts.
My guess would be a short circuit occurred somewhere between the accessory charge port and the MP3 player. Is the accessory plug in tact enough that you can tell if the fuse is blown or not? If the fuse is blown, I'd suspect that much more that the problem was due to a short circuit in the cable. The short caused the fuse to blow, but the fully charged LiPo battery now had a large current draw on it, it tried as hard as it could to supply the current demand to the short which caused the cable and the battery to get extremely hot. The battery may have actually ignited but didn't burst in to flames since it was inside the player.
If you want to get a feel for how violent these batteries can ignite, surf around on YouTube for Lithium Battery Fire or similar search keywords. You'll probably be glad it wasn't worse. Unfortunately you'll have a hard time determining which part was the initial source of failure.
-Rod
A real iPod (and I suspect most knock offs as well) use a Lithium Ion (Li-ion) or Lithium Polymer (LiPo) battery. This battery technology, while great for high drain applications or where size and/or weight are important, is a great fit. Unfortunately, it's somewhat sensitive to charge and discharge status as well as temperature, shorting, and in the case of early technology packs, impact.
A true iPod, and probably most of the clones, will incorporate a voltage cutoff and charge circuit internal to the player, so that should not be the problem unless there was a malfunction in that circuit. Also I don't think the MP3 players really became very popular before the Lithium batteries were no longer as much a threat from impacts.
My guess would be a short circuit occurred somewhere between the accessory charge port and the MP3 player. Is the accessory plug in tact enough that you can tell if the fuse is blown or not? If the fuse is blown, I'd suspect that much more that the problem was due to a short circuit in the cable. The short caused the fuse to blow, but the fully charged LiPo battery now had a large current draw on it, it tried as hard as it could to supply the current demand to the short which caused the cable and the battery to get extremely hot. The battery may have actually ignited but didn't burst in to flames since it was inside the player.
If you want to get a feel for how violent these batteries can ignite, surf around on YouTube for Lithium Battery Fire or similar search keywords. You'll probably be glad it wasn't worse. Unfortunately you'll have a hard time determining which part was the initial source of failure.
-Rod
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