Thomas Bscher

Did he own an F1?

I have a pic of dec. 1995 of a silver F1 displayed at a Dutch show and lately someone told me Thomas Bscher was the owner...

What chassis could it be?

He apparently owns / owned 2 GTR's, both he raced, #03R and #22R, and did own #022 when he did the famous '200+mph commute' that baffled the F1 technicians back in Woking

Thomas owned a pair of GTRs - #03R and #22R - and his F1 road car, which he was the original owner of, was #022 painted 'Genesis Dark Blue'.

Here's a shot of 022 from when he had it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20I/mclaren2.jpg

Note the green leather side seats and yellow insert on the driver's seat.

Also, DocGTR shared an image of him and his F1 in an article recently:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6095158&postcount=13

Roger shared this image of it and XP5 a while back in a thread that tells the current story of this chassis:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=5770918&postcount=33

Now there's always a chance he picked up a silver one after selling #022, but that's something I've never heard or seen before.

>8^)
ER

it's a shame that there a so few pics of the time this F1 was owned by Bscher...i think i just have 3...

there are far more of the time in Wyclef's hands and after the respray...

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7520/831041a.th.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/831041a.jpg/) http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3121/831032a.th.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/831032a.jpg/)

I think I only have 3 pics of it whilst it was with TB too :screwy:

[It states in the text that he bought it in November 1994]

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6095158&postcount=13


this german article tells us, that #022 was the first F1 registered in germany. so i dont know what to think of #015 beeing german. maybe it was, but was never registered or its first home wasnt in germany, just the last before it went to the US?!?!

it's a shame that there a so few pics of the time this F1 was owned by Bscher...i think i just have 3...

I have a few more than that which I'll share when I return home.

Also, as I commented privately to someone the other day - I think the 'German connection' on chassis #015 is a product of gerd's past comments here, as he attributed all the F1s that came in through Amerispec Corp as coming from Germany. Leno's wasn't one of the 7 "Ameritech F1s" but was imported through the same company. While part of the trick of importing them might have involved shipping through Germany, that doesn't necessarily mean that was where they lived at any time in their lives.

For instance, Herb Chamber's Ameritech F1 (chassis #044) came into the USA with a UK plate on its nose, so I'd suspect that was perhaps its previous location.

>8^)
ER

Thomas Bscher also owned GTR 24R. :)

Which John Nielsen destroyed at Suzuka.

Thomas Bscher also owned GTR 24R. :)

Which John Nielsen destroyed at Suzuka.

http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/6605/8c70ad66046219.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8c70ad66046219)

The aftermath of that crash! (clickable) :crying:

But wasn't it just on a loan from BMW as Bscher's 22R was in repairs due to the LM'97 engine compartment fire? I haven't read anywhere that it would have been sold to Bscher, only loaned. Later after extensive repairs 24R was sold to EMKA, which raced it the 1998 season.

hmm so the silver one was not his, I will search for that pic (just one, stupid me!) in my archives!

Fortunately that #24R were built back to shape. Must say it was defenitely huge crash. GT Endurance 1997 book also notised that crash on the text.

Which race was this?

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9255/offc.jpg

Which race was this?

the track looks like Le Mans.

the track looks like Le Mans.

Le Mans would be my guess too. Image quality refers to a video, as well as the background details to a similar kind of track as Le Mans (e.g. yellow tire walls). As the details are very scarce, I would try to track that down with the help of that "PlayStation" Porsche on the front. The resolution of that screen grab is so low that it is impossible to see the details on the front of the 24R, if it's LM'97 pre-qualifying or the race weekend.

Le Mans would be my guess too. Image quality refers to a video, as well as the background details to a similar kind of track as Le Mans (e.g. yellow tire walls). As the details are very scarce, I would try to track that down with the help of that "PlayStation" Porsche on the front. The resolution of that screen grab is so low that it is impossible to see the details on the front of the 24R, if it's LM'97 pre-qualifying or the race weekend.

I think it's not the BMW Motorsports GTR's, doesn't seem to be FINA liveried GTR. :uhoh:
Could this be example 1998 Le Mans?

I think it's not the BMW Motorsports GTR's, doesn't seem to be FINA liveried GTR. :uhoh:
Could this be example 1998 Le Mans?

Sorry my typo, I meant the LM'98, pq or the race weekend. After BMW sold it to EMKA they raced it 1998 in that red/white 'EMI Harman/Kardon" livery, 1999 in blue/white.

Sorry my typo, I meant the LM'98, pq or the race weekend. After BMW sold it to EMKA they raced it 1998 in that red/white 'EMI Harman/Kardon" livery, 1999 in blue/white.

OK, good yes, I haven't got my eyesight yet. :iceslolan

I have a few more than that which I'll share when I return home.

A little late, but I remembered. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20I/mclaren102.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20I/McLaren-F1LM.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20I/mclaren-f1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20I/2305689a.jpg

>8^)
ER

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20I/mclaren-f1.jpg


thats a new one for me. how do you know its #022 erik?

If I say 'I forget' will that be okay? :uhoh:

Been in the collection since Feb 2004, so it is sometimes a little difficult to recall the reference. Just looking at it now, the color looks correct, and unlike the UK cars that might be a match it doesn't have a front plate.

There must have been a reason for it to have ended up in my #022 folder though, as I do have a selection of 'unknown' pics that remain uncategorized.

>8^)
ER

thats a new one for me. how do you know its #022 erik?

I scanned it out of a magazine (Classic and Sportscar i believe) from back when T&C had 022 for sale

I scanned it out of a magazine (Classic and Sportscar i believe) from back when T&C had 022 for sale

chris can you tell us what was written about the car in the ad?

Did he own an F1?

I have a pic of dec. 1995 of a silver F1 displayed at a Dutch show and lately someone told me Thomas Bscher was the owner...

What chassis could it be?
Hi Patrick,

I was involved in this show back in 1995/96. I was told by the chap who had arranged the car that it belonged to an owner in Germany who had two F1's, a road car and a race car. All the information on this forum and in the press at the time seem to suggest that this information may have been incorrect. However, the transporter the car came on wore a German registration, so it may have been one of the other German owned cars.
The car on display was finished in silver and had a grey/black interior with a red insert on the driver's seat.
Although I spent eight hours a day showing people around the car for the two weeks it was on display, I can't for the life of me remember what the chassis number was. I'm sorry I can't be of more help in your quest.