#018 at Hampton Downs Raceway

Ace Pic :bigthumb: (when viewed large)

http://www.shutterspeed.co.nz/Public-Events/Hampton-Downs-Bruce-McLaren/11056781_c7rzZ#775293162_gaDtN-A-LB

There,s a vid on youtube as well.

Hey Martin - That is a great shot! :cool:

I am concerned that the driver and his passenger appear a bit distracted by something though? :dunno:

I guess that's not as bad as chatting on your mobile phone (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanbauer/4306849963/in/set-72157623139065269/) while driving an F1. :p :D

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Better than chatting on the phone and crashing like another F1 driver has done...

Actually the way I heard the story was that he dropped his phone and then crashed. I don't know if the pending crash caused him to drop the phone, or the dropped phone caused him to crash though.

Kind of one of those chicken/egg scenarios. :silly:

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In other news - here's another shot of #018, this time displayed at the "Fresh Zealand Festival of Motor Sport" - that's a new one.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4308759808_7a0fd7db04.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mdwillcox/4308759808/in/set-72157623168970389/)

Click to get a bigger one, and see the rest of his album if you are interested. :cool:

I bet someone with a lot of free time on their hands could find a few more shots from this event. ;)

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Well I don't have free time, but still managed to find other Hampton Downs shots - also clickable:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2702/4303374712_0115e3d01d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42094690@N04/4303374712/)

More in this album:

New Zealand Festival of Motor Racing 2010 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robinzblog/sets/72157623147286451/)

Great to see the car's new owner out using it! :thumbsup:

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"McLAREN F1 LM"
Gotta love it :rolleyes:

I know... :shakehead It's the easy answer.

I tend to think that the real story is much more interesting, but you can't tell it in 15 seconds, and to the casual observer they won't know what the heck you're talking about.

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:thumbsup:

I'm not very good about F1 roadcar's so let's do one thing clear now about this specific car:

This is an basic F1 road car, which has hadded some "GTR" parts, like the front end of the car, GTR rear wing and new wheels, which are not same than GTR's or LM had?
Everything else seems to be F1 roadcar.
What about the engine, basic 627 horse power V12 or is it striped to LM spec?
And the gearbox is normal F1 road car or...?

If the case is this what I think it is, the changes defenitely suits very well on that car. Seems there is quite many stannard F1 road cars, which has that GTR rearwing added? Seen images white and silver ones atleast.
Defenitely makes the car more "racing spirit"!

That's why I loved right after first sight to the LM. The McLaren F1 got perfect with those added racing parts. Just perfect. Nothing was missing.
The truly racing feeling. :)

"McLAREN F1 LM"
Gotta love it :rolleyes:

I took some time and told the real story as a comment to the first image in his album. Not sure if he'll be pleased to see that or not. Given the sign that was there with the car it certainly was not his fault for having the wrong description. I also asked him to share larger versions of his images - keep those fingers crossed with me. :)

Sami - essentially the front and rear wings and the front wheel arches are much like those on the LMs or the 1995/1996 GTRs. The vents in the nose piece over the front wheels mimics the 1997 GTRs. The engines in this car and its near-twin, #073, have been upgraded to LM-spec, but the gearboxes remain standard F1 bits so the excessive gear whine would not be present.

They are what they are - very special, factory modified McLaren F1 road cars - the rarest of the breed. They aren't and will never be LMs in my eyes, and I think some of the owners of these cars are doing a great disservice to history by referring to them as such.

Especially if you are going to put out a sign with the display - telling someone in quick conversation that it's an LM is one thing, but when you go to the trouble of having a display sign made, you should have the time and the space to tell the whole story.

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Hello all from Down under. Long time viewer, first time poster....

Just a quick note I'm hugely impressed at the wealth of information you have on this forum!! You all do a brilliant job.

Here's the details for #018 blasting by an M6GT at the Bruce McLaren festival at Hampton Downs....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rieK13iTi0

And also some impressive driving from an Integra driver to try keep up with him at Hampton Downs again from a track day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXbSqg9OQ8

#018's owner races a 997 GT3 Cup Car as track car so he knows how to pedal a car round a race circuit!

I took some time and told the real story as a comment to the first image in his album. Not sure if he'll be pleased to see that or not. Given the sign that was there with the car it certainly was not his fault for having the wrong description. I also asked him to share larger versions of his images - keep those fingers crossed with me. :)

Sami - essentially the front and rear wings and the front wheel arches are much like those on the LMs or the 1995/1996 GTRs. The vents in the nose piece over the front wheels mimics the 1997 GTRs. The engines in this car and its near-twin, #073, have been upgraded to LM-spec, but the gearboxes remain standard F1 bits so the excessive gear whine would not be present.

They are what they are - very special, factory modified McLaren F1 road cars - the rarest of the breed. They aren't and will never be LMs in my eyes, and I think some of the owners of these cars are doing a great disservice to history by referring to them as such.

Especially if you are going to put out a sign with the display - telling someone in quick conversation that it's an LM is one thing, but when you go to the trouble of having a display sign made, you should have the time and the space to tell the whole story.

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Thank you for the details of those nose, wheels and tail changes.
I agree with you 100% this one. There is just 5 LM's + one prototype. If you do LM replica, it's not real LM. Even you do everything precisely same, it' not the real LM.

Hello all from Down under. Long time viewer, first time poster....

Just a quick note I'm hugely impressed at the wealth of information you have on this forum!! You all do a brilliant job.

Here's the details for #018 blasting by an M6GT at the Bruce McLaren festival at Hampton Downs....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rieK13iTi0

And also some impressive driving from an Integra driver to try keep up with him at Hampton Downs again from a track day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXbSqg9OQ8

#018's owner races a 997 GT3 Cup Car as track car so he knows how to pedal a car round a race circuit!

:thumbsup: Welcome to the Forum!
Nice firts post!!!

i nearly have tears in my eyes that this wonderfull chassis has left germany, too. :frown::frown::frown:

Hello all from Down under. Long time viewer, first time poster....

Great first post! Thanks for joining us.

If you have more than casual knowledge of who AB is, perhaps you could speak with him about the sign issue, please? :uhoh:

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Hello all from Down under. Long time viewer, first time poster....

Just a quick note I'm hugely impressed at the wealth of information you have on this forum!! You all do a brilliant job.

Here's the details for #018 blasting by an M6GT at the Bruce McLaren festival at Hampton Downs....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rieK13iTi0

And also some impressive driving from an Integra driver to try keep up with him at Hampton Downs again from a track day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXbSqg9OQ8

#018's owner races a 997 GT3 Cup Car as track car so he knows how to pedal a car round a race circuit!

Welcome to the forum.

Nice first post, thanks for the links :thumbsup:

Any more info on #018, Please feel free to share, its such a smart looking F1.

Both now added here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=934974) :thumbsup:

Great first post! Thanks for joining us.

If you have more than casual knowledge of who AB is, perhaps you could speak with him about the sign issue, please? :uhoh:

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I wish it was more than a casual knowledge! There may be a few opportunities to cross paths this summer so I will try introduce myself if the chance arises.

I did speak to one of the crew in the corporate area who was lucky enough to be looking after the keys to #018 while AB was racing. He said the car does get its legs stretched and that it arrived absolutely filthy and in impressive time for its 280km journey from home.

I'll try post some more comprehensive pictures when I figure out a better way to get them up....

I wish it was more than a casual knowledge! There may be a few opportunities to cross paths this summer so I will try introduce myself if the chance arises.

I did speak to one of the crew in the corporate area who was lucky enough to be looking after the keys to #018 while AB was racing. He said the car does get its legs stretched and that it arrived absolutely filthy and in impressive time for its 280km journey from home.

I'll try post some more comprehensive pictures when I figure out a better way to get them up....

Look forward to seeing the rest of your pics, I used MediaFire.com file/folder sharing for the first time today, for my XP1 LM pics, easy to use :thumbsup:(thanks Erik)

Its really good to see the owner using his F1, for what it was designed for "DRIVING" :bigthumb: Top man.

I'll try post some more comprehensive pictures when I figure out a better way to get them up....

I'm always available to host anything F1-related if you want to email them to me. I pay for my Photobucket account and so there's no chance of the images ever going missing unless Photobucket dies a horrible death.

My email address is my screenname @hotmail if you want/need to take me up on the offer. :)

That first image is quite good. :thumbsup:

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Just realised this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXbSqg9OQ8 is not from the most recent Bruce McLaren event - He must get down there quite a bit then!

Here should be some of the better photos on #018 as promised. Hope you enjoy.

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=3mtmk0dnmqd&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=t4wzzqq2tgv&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=n5jheoynmd5&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=zymjjzmhz2g&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=vinyzxjv5yw&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=nzynzoge2ii&thumb=6

Fantastic shots those are - thanks for putting them up. :thumbsup:

I should mention that we'll even be pleased with the ones you don't call "better photos". ;)

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Today I acquired the larger versions of RobiNZ's 16 photos from the New Zealand Motorsports Festival on Flickr and he gave me permission to share them with other F1 enthusiasts. If you want them, let me know here or shoot me a PM and I can provide a DL link.

He also forwarded a link to the comment I made in his Flickr album to someone at the Bruce McLaren Trust so that hopefully they can do a better job of informing people on exactly what this car is at future events. :cool:

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Great Video!

Here should be some of the better photos on #018 as promised. Hope you enjoy.

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=3mtmk0dnmqd&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=t4wzzqq2tgv&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=n5jheoynmd5&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=zymjjzmhz2g&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=vinyzxjv5yw&thumb=6

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=nzynzoge2ii&thumb=6


Thanks for sharing, excellent pics :smokin:

Also big thanks to RobiNZ for sharing his excellent pics in high res :cheers:

You guys in NZ are lucky to have an owner who is enthusiastic about driving his F1 and sharing it in the public arena. Concidering its probably the only one in your country.

You guys in NZ are lucky... ....Concidering its probably the only one in your country.

Nope, there is another one. Silver road car near Wellington - some people DO know the chassis number, but sadly aren't willing to share it, so it remains an 'unknown' silver car. And of course there was XP4. So for a small country (4.3mil or so) we've had more than our fair share I think!

I've never even seen a photo of the Wellington car even though it's well known and has been discussed for a very long time. I'd be pretty surprised if it was anything other than chassis #049, #057 or #066 though.

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A couple of great 'selective color' shots of #018. Each one links to the Flickr page where you can DL a hi-res version. :cool:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4444302999_7fd54a3811.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdwen/4444302999/in/set-72157623648963832/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4445073864_ee5fb578f8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdwen/4445073864/in/set-72157623648963832/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4444302003_e200e3fc33.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdwen/4444302003/in/set-72157623648963832/)

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Few more of my #018 pics...

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=nyomzmnzym5&thumb=6
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=bggc0mljjg1&thumb=6
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=01nz45zmnbz&thumb=6
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=ego2jx3okyw&thumb=6
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=gwiijvhvgdy&thumb=6
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=2mywdxqmymx&thumb=6

Those are great - thanks!!

It is quite a good looking car and I'm happy to see that after a few years of hibernation it is getting some real use in the hands of the current owner. :thumbup:

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Yep, thanks also from here!
Previously I have said that this car is makes an exception to me, usually I would say that more an oringal, that's better.
But this has been done very good taste. There seems to be more same kind of changes other F1's also, seen that group image atleast one or two.
Whit GTR front and rear wing and sort of.

I've never even seen a photo of the Wellington car even though it's well known and has been discussed for a very long time. I'd be pretty surprised if it was anything other than chassis #049, #057 or #066 though.

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Hey, just discovered this Forum. Its great!

Possibly a n00b question, given that #49 was delivered new to New Zealand, in Mercedes Brilliant Sliver, would the presumption be that it is more likely #49 than not? I remember several years ago being told by one of the local car dealers that it was sold brand new (no proof whatsoever though, just what he told me)

Thanks - we think it is pretty great too. :thumbsup:

On those details - we just recently had someone finally provide the details on the Whittaker car in this post (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6367729&postcount=148).

Still no pictures of the car exist that I'm aware of, and so I am struggling to work on that. If you think you might be able to find some that would be great as well. You'd be the hero for a day.

Enjoy your stay! If we can help with anything don't hesitate to ask away. :cool:

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Thanks - we think it is pretty great too. :thumbsup:

On those details - we just recently had someone finally provide the details on the Whittaker car in this post (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6367729&postcount=148).

Still no pictures of the car exist that I'm aware of, and so I am struggling to work on that. If you think you might be able to find some that would be great as well. You'd be the hero for a day.

Enjoy your stay! If we can help with anything don't hesitate to ask away. :cool:

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I don't have any pictures, but if I can source any then I will share with you guys!

Anyone know where else this car will show up? Any events it will be at? I was lucky enough to see it when it was sale, but to hear it going, and see it go round a track would be something else :)

I give you

Chassis 49

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/samzbob_2/McLarenF1049.jpg

And yes it was a brand spanker when it came to NZ in 1996 :)

Dude.
:D:D:D
(Let me know how the 018 thing's going re: the PMs we've exchanged :) )

Thats amazing!! Was this the other day you spotted it? Was he driving without the plates?

I blotted out the plates in paint, cause you know how quickly images fly around the internet these days!!

As for the 18 thing mate, we were going to try work something with him for our Trainathon (www.trainathon.co.nz) but ill chase it up again, pretty hard when guys like that always in Switzerland, Monaco and other random places!!!

i give you

chassis 49

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/samzbob_2/mclarenf1049.jpg

and yes it was a brand spanker when it came to nz in 1996 :)

:1:

I give you Chassis 49

Stellar job - well done!! Thank you!!! :thumbsup:

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WOW nice pic! I even know that piece of road :)
Still can't figure out why I can't find the plate on carjam.co.nz though...

Now to get back to my :runaround:ing

Changing gears a little here and going back to the original topic, chassis #018 was on display again yesterday at Hampton Downs.

Pics by fUrBuRgEr.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9919/dsc02522q.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/dsc02522q.jpg/) http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/507/dsc02523yt.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/dsc02523yt.jpg/) http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3092/dsc02524g.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/dsc02524g.jpg/) http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4168/dsc02525m.th.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/dsc02525m.jpg/)

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7824/dsc02526x.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/dsc02526x.jpg/) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6087/dsc02527au.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/i/dsc02527au.jpg/) http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6209/dsc02529r.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/dsc02529r.jpg/) http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5397/dsc02530gi.th.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/dsc02530gi.jpg/)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6268/dsc02536a.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/dsc02536a.jpg/) http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7346/dsc02637eu.th.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/dsc02637eu.jpg/) http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/686/dsc02639n.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/dsc02639n.jpg/) http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9540/dsc02640qd.th.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/dsc02640qd.jpg/)

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I give you...... #018 EHDF-LM.


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4665/dsc02976gb.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/dsc02976gb.jpg/) http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9597/img5718n.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/img5718n.jpg/)

Does anyone know why the stereo controls aren't showing in their usual place in #018? Were hey removed as part of the upgrade when adding the kenwood head unit? Do you think the CD Changer unit is still under the front bonnet [although its not showing in the last pic.....?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/th_183.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/?action=view&current=183.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/th_c148dc2ba5a9d0ae4d7cc589bd7fd397_m.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/?action=view&current=c148dc2ba5a9d0ae4d7cc589bd7fd397_m.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/th_f1_53.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/?action=view&current=f1_53.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/th_64957_IMG_2988-1024-A_122_712lo.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/?action=view&current=64957_IMG_2988-1024-A_122_712lo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/th_article2_L.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/?action=view&current=article2_L.jpg)