Neon SRT or S2000

Which do you think would win in the 1/4 mile?

Dodge Neon SRT- 215hp Turbocharged

Honda S2000- 2.4 liter 240hp engine

I would put my money on the S2000 but I think it would be a good race?

The S2000 is 2.0 litres first of all- and of course it would paste the Neon in the 1/4- it's lighter, more powerful and RWD

Hmm...S2k weighes around 2800 lbs and so does the Neon...maybe 100 lbs more...but the SRT-4 has torque...245 lbs of it...while the S2k has only 160 or so?

Hmm

But yea...I'd take the S2k...instead...Neon is still a Neon...no matter how you paint it

maybe that two cars might have the same time for 1/4 mile but for overall I choose S 2000 .. the style, reability, handling, and awesome non blower engine .. :D

I would choose the S 2000, 9000 rpm redline would be very advantageous, cause the S 2000 wouldnt get its doors blown off from the start, it would be close, the neon would have to shift first, and while the neon was doing that, the S 2000 would just get up and go, be long gone, cause than the S 2000 would be in its powerband the rest of the race, and no way the neon would catch up.

The SRT-4 would be my pick. Costs much less and I prefer the looks of the SRT-4 over the S2000. Also, what wins drag races is torque and the S2000 has a shitty amount of it. Also you have to be damn good to get a good launch with the S2000. The Neon's powerband is all over the tach, not after a specific point like the S2000. Also the SRT-4 has 232HP and 250 ft/lbs of torque to the wheels. The S2000 has 240HP and 160 ft/lbs of torque to the flywheel. They both weigh about 2800 pounds. It all comes down to the driver with these two cars.

I would have to pick the SRT-4.

That neon blow away any Honda ever made.:finger:

for the honda to beat the srt4, it would have to thrash its clutch through every gear and make the shifts stick

i think it would all come down to the driver of the s2k

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
That neon blow away any Honda ever made.:finger:

Honda NSX Type S Zero or the NSX Type R...say Bye Bye to your Neon!

The NSX Type S Zero



http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/NSX/19970206/image/007-002.gif

or the NSX Type R

http://home.wanadoo.nl/peter.wrekenhorst/Honda%20nieuws/41%20NSX%20type%20R.jpg

I think the torque on that Neon will eat up the S2000 for the 1/4. Top end I'd go with the S but for the short track that Neon would be tough to beat. With that said, I'd much rather own the S2000 then any Neon.

Originally posted by NISSANSPDR


Honda NSX Type S Zero or the NSX Type R...say Bye Bye to your Neon!

The NSX Type S Zero



http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/NSX/19970206/image/007-002.gif

or the NSX Type R

http://home.wanadoo.nl/peter.wrekenhorst/Honda%20nieuws/41%20NSX%20type%20R.jpg

Hey that's not fair, that's an $80,000 car, with a bigger engine, and only two seats, there's not even a backseat to make out in! I was naturally talking as a comparable car, surrender to the power of Dodge!:devil:

With equal drivers and equal thrashing of both cars, I say the SRT-4 Neon wins. And incase anyone doesn't know already, them SRT-4's come VERY VERY underated. It'll just take a while for their weird ass looks to seem normal...

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro


Hey that's not fair, that's an $80,000 car, with a bigger engine, and only two seats, there's not even a backseat to make out in! I was naturally talking as a comparable car, surrender to the power of Dodge!:devil:

You said any Honda car...

:finger:

Actually I'm right because that is not a Honda, I'm from the good ol' US of A and here we call those Acuras. So in conclusion I have to admit I was right

but the motor on the Acura NSX says HONDA on it I bet.

If it says Acura on the nose cone, then it aint no Honda.

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
If it says Acura on the nose cone, then it aint no Honda. All Acuras are Hondas.

Well that's good to know, but why are they embarrased to put the mighty "H" on the NSX in the US?

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
Well that's good to know, but why are they embarrased to put the mighty "H" on the NSX in the US? There are a couple theories, but I've never really heard which is the 'right' one. One is that since Honda entered the U.S. market with econo-cars, they wanted a new name for the luxo-division, so that brand-conscious Americans wouldn't just walk away. Another is that importers had a restriction on the number of different models they could sell, so they split the product line in two...

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
If it says Acura on the nose cone, then it aint no Honda.

The Honda NSX Type R does not come here and is only available as a Honda...so it truly is a Honda that can kick your lil Neon...and then SOME!

:flipa:

Originally posted by jay@af
There are a couple theories, but I've never really heard which is the 'right' one. One is that since Honda entered the U.S. market with econo-cars, they wanted a new name for the luxo-division, so that brand-conscious Americans wouldn't just walk away. Another is that importers had a restriction on the number of different models they could sell, so they split the product line in two...

Sort of like Toyota and Lexus.

It may say acura on the nosecone, but it ain't no car without that HONDA motor.

Does anyone know what the neon does the 1/4 mile in?

The Honda will win:D

The 1/4 mile times are:

Neon: 14.2 seconds @ 102mph (just found this in another thread)

S2000: 14.1 seconds @ 99.6mph

Well, the Neon has an underrated engine, as Polygon pointed out. Those power figures translate to approximately 275hp at the flywheel:eek:

But the Neon is still front wheel drive, which is what will limit it the most. But for the price, its a great deal, and at 12000 less than an S2000, well, its a tough call.

Personally, I would spring for a WRX, nicely balanced in between both cars:)

I think the Neon SRT-4 would win hands down. I own one and have had the pleasure of dusting cars such as lexus, honda's , acura's, and even some bmw's. Torque is what wins races, I own a 79' Trans Am, and it only came with 185 hp stock, I though what the heck that cant be right, but the torque is up in the 370's or so, thats with a 403 CI engine. That car took any import, and many domestics like the new mustang GT or your much acclaimed S2000. Torque is what will win, and having a turbo or a blower on you car will make it that much easier cause your pushing air into your engine, not sucking it. Give it a try. Grab an air hose and turn it on and try breathing, its a lot eisier, same with forced induction. Bottom line though, it comes down to the driver, if you cant shift, or your late off the line, your not gonna win. :loser:

Originally posted by SRT-4 guy
I think the Neon SRT-4 would win hands down. I own one and have had the pleasure of dusting cars such as lexus, honda's , acura's, and even some bmw's. Torque is what wins races, I own a 79' Trans Am, and it only came with 185 hp stock, I though what the heck that cant be right, but the torque is up in the 370's or so, thats with a 403 CI engine. That car took any import, and many domestics like the new mustang GT or your much acclaimed S2000. Torque is what will win, and having a turbo or a blower on you car will make it that much easier cause your pushing air into your engine, not sucking it. Give it a try. Grab an air hose and turn it on and try breathing, its a lot eisier, same with forced induction. Bottom line though, it comes down to the driver, if you cant shift, or your late off the line, your not gonna win. :loser:

Yes the Neon has torque to pull away quicker than anything without RWD and possibly move faster down a strip than anything mention-ed- but show it a road course and it- well lets just say "Drops it's nuts" :D

I dont know how the S2000 handles but I can tell you that the SRT-4 is no punk when it comes to road courses, its not just a regular neon with a turbocharged engine, it has a beefier suspension, anti roll bars in the front and back, 11" front disk breaks 10.5 " rear disk breaks. Quite a few of the project leaders from the new Viper SRT-10 put in quite a bit of work and some good ideas on the new Neon SRT-4. Look it up on Yahoo and study into it, I think that it might suprise you........ thanks for tryin though:thefinger

Originally posted by Chris
Well, the Neon has an underrated engine, as Polygon pointed out. Those power figures translate to approximately 275hp at the flywheel:eek:



actully polygon's numbers are the flywheel numbers......but with a bout 1000 in mods you can get to his numbers easily.....

for straight line i'll take the srt-4.....it can be much more cheaply and easily modede to go faster...

in the twisties.....i'll probably say S2000 but to be 100% sure about that i'll have to see them race.....till then any speculation is purelly academic

Definitely would come down to driver skill...but to quote automobile mag (i think) for the s2000 to pull low quarter mile times the driver had better be on a first name basis with a good parts supplier.

I would take the srt4, and pocket another 12 grand!

everyone is saying that the car is heavily underated and what not....but my thing is can they really sell a car that they say has 215 hp at the crand but really has 240-245hp at the crank w/o getting into trouble or breaking some kinda of automotive rating law....if one exists

First off, having driven both the cars in question, the S2000 is faster. Any driver worth anything can make the S2000 fly. Next, to the bone head saying torque wins races- "Horse power is for racing, torque is for burnouts!"-as quoted from Sport Compact Car. And the nail in the coffin, the neon looks like a neon-fuggly! The S2000 will look alot better while it is beating the neon, so you will get the trophy, the money, and the girls... yup, we have a winner.

Originally posted by foreverupward
First off, having driven both the cars in question, the S2000 is faster. Any driver worth anything can make the S2000 fly. Next, to the bone head saying torque wins races- "Horse power is for racing, torque is for burnouts!"-as quoted from Sport Compact Car. And the nail in the coffin, the neon looks like a neon-fuggly! The S2000 will look alot better while it is beating the neon, so you will get the trophy, the money, and the girls... yup, we have a winner.

Torque is far more important than what you say it is- Torque is quickly a car can thrust itself forward- important no matter what kind of racing you do- besdies- torqier engines sound better :smile:

Originally posted by foreverupward
First off, having driven both the cars in question, the S2000 is faster. Any driver worth anything can make the S2000 fly. Next, to the bone head saying torque wins races- "Horse power is for racing, torque is for burnouts!"-as quoted from Sport Compact Car. And the nail in the coffin, the neon looks like a neon-fuggly! The S2000 will look alot better while it is beating the neon, so you will get the trophy, the money, and the girls... yup, we have a winner.

next time when you go racing and exit a hairpin turn and it takes an eternity to get back into the powerband because you have no low down torque then talk about winning races...

If sound is the best come back you have, I recommend you listen really closely the next time an S2000 comes by at full tilt. At 9000 rpm's the sound is like no other 4 cylinder I have ever heard. So bring your "torquier" sounding engine to the track and we'll settle out like men

Originally posted by foreverupward
If sound is the best come back you have, I recommend you listen really closely the next time an S2000 comes by at full tilt. At 9000 rpm's the sound is like no other 4 cylinder I have ever heard. So bring your "torquier" sounding engine to the track and we'll settle out like men


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Sorry but VTEC's at High RPM's sound like my razor- nobody does industion noise/exhaust noises better than the Italians- although the muscle cars- especially MOPAR ones- come rather close

Horse power is for winning races on the freeway, where most of you little imports like to race cause you know that you have no torque. Torque wins races anywhere, and when you have close matched torque to HP numbers, the better chance you will have winning the race. Try running a race on the 1/4 mile with 300 hp and 100 torque and tell me how long it takes you to get to the end, I bet it will be quite a while.:thefinger :biggrin2:

you're an idiot.

Originally posted by SRT-4 guy
Horse power is for winning races on the freeway, where most of you little imports like to race cause you know that you have no torque. Torque wins races anywhere, and when you have close matched torque to HP numbers, the better chance you will have winning the race. Try running a race on the 1/4 mile with 300 hp and 100 torque and tell me how long it takes you to get to the end, I bet it will be quite a while.:thefinger :biggrin2:

perhaps I should also mention that lots of torque is best applied to RWD for the best road-race results :rolleyes: