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Larger throttle body & intake manifold


cyberrexer
04-10-2003, 05:18 AM
Theoretically what would be the gains from a 70mm throttle body along with a port and polished intake manifold which has been port matched to the 70mm throttle body. I take it the ECU would need to be remapped, but would I need larger injectors? If so what would be my options/price.

Any problems I could possibly encounter? Also would this put me in good stead for a possible turbo application in the future.

Any advise appreciated.

Thanks!

cyberrexer
04-10-2003, 09:09 AM
Anyone?:rolleyes:

91civicDXdude
04-10-2003, 10:03 AM
in the best case scenario, i'd say you'll get about 10hp from the throttle body

mellowboy
04-10-2003, 12:44 PM
Thats too big. U'll lose torque. I'd go with 64-66 mm.

civickiller
04-10-2003, 05:06 PM
your car will learn and adjust to the new amount of air going into the engine

kris
04-10-2003, 08:08 PM
It will do more harm then good, if other stuff is not done first. What have you done to the head? Vavle job? P&P on intake and exaust, header, exhaust?

If you dont work on those things first, you wont gain anything.

cyberrexer
04-11-2003, 04:15 AM
Thanks for the replies, so far I have a HKS header, induction, custom exhaust and Hondata chip. I’ve been told the car will adjust to a certain point but not that much. As I have a Hondata chip re-mapping isn’t a problem, but would I need larger injectors?

The throttle body comes with a port and polished intake manifold to match. Didn’t realise about the loss in torque though.

SiZ
04-11-2003, 02:14 PM
How the hell are you going to lose torque?! Do people even know how HP is made?! Geeze. :rolleyes:

IM and TB would be a good next step, then it would probably be a good idea to get a cam.. You shouldn't need bigger injectors, your car really shouldn't be demanding that much more fuel just from basic bolt ons.

cyberrexer
04-11-2003, 02:31 PM
I've been told that the injectors run almost flat out at peak power on a stock SiR, there isn't much headroom (and winding the fuel pressure up is a bit of a bodge). :rolleyes:

mellowboy
04-12-2003, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by SiZ
How the hell are you going to lose torque?! Do people even know how HP is made?! Geeze. :rolleyes:




Well my boy bought BBK tb for his gsr. He lost tq! 113 lbs of tq when he dyno'ed:rolleyes: I'll see if he has dyno sheets for his ride.

BigBearWest
04-12-2003, 03:57 AM
Any one know where i could pick up a 70mm TB for cheap

civickiller
04-12-2003, 08:27 AM
see waht more air does is it keeps the torque up at higher rpm instead of going down. so with the torque leveling off, and not dropping, u get an incease in hp up high

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