Kit Review: Ferrari 599XX Super Detail-up Set from HobbyDesign in 1/24

Hi,

I just got my Hobby Design 599XX Transkit.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/3834376234666535.jpg


Overall impression isn´t bad, however the parts need some work. Especially where the resin is poured into the mold, some filing and sanding is needed. This can be seen on the photo of the right side of the front, quite some work necessary.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/6230616165306361.jpg


Concerning the tires: forget them. They are not like the vinyl tires you know from other kits, they are soft like chewing gum. I think I must look for some replacement.
The BBS wheels have a nice design, but the 599XX wheels are a little bit different. The Y-spokes are too deep (looking towards the brakes). All 4 wheels have the same size, that is also wrong, the rears should be wider than the fronts.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/6134393439653736.jpg


The other resin parts look crisp, the cage needs some more sanding.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/3334356136396634.jpg


The etched parts look good, however, some items are not necessary, but the companies provide the modeller with lots of etched parts, that won´t be seen later – but the modeller seems to like that.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/6133643336316163.jpg


The transkit is completed with etched seat belts and decals.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/6332646534316665.jpg


All in all the transkit looks rather good. I will testfit the parts on a Revell 599, I think about a phantomracer with engine ...

Thanks for the review and the pictures. How is the thickness of the etched parts..?? I was looking to buy the Hobby Design set for the McLaren MP4/6, but I read somewhere that Hobby Design photo etch is very thick. How do you find it in this set..??

I also got this kit when they were just released few weeks ago. While quality of my copy is a bit better as far as casting goes (probably one of the few first copies while the mold was still good), I have to agree that the wheels and tires are pretty useless, and overall the kit is not worth the money.

for the rims.

Studio 27 could make a killing selling there BBS white metal rims, they appear to be the most accurate BBS rims made

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh152/Spike2933/Work%20in%20Progress/Peugeot%20908/100_4301.jpg

for the rims.

Studio 27 could make a killing selling there BBS white metal rims, they appear to be the most accurate BBS rims made

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh152/Spike2933/Work%20in%20Progress/Peugeot%20908/100_4301.jpg

Agree! I felt this is the most accurate one i have ever seen.

Ro

Agree! I felt this is the most accurate one i have ever seen.

Ro


sorry, but I`m not your opinion

http://blog.splash.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Peugeot_908_HDi_FAP1.jpg


http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/international-automotive-scene/110397d1236731344-le-mans-cars-peugeot-908-hy-6_800x0w.jpg

sorry, but I`m not your opinion


yes, they still are not 100% accurate, but they are the BBS LM rims out there right now

Thanks for sharing, Micha! When are you going to start this racer? :D

My HD kit looks very similar to that (tons of flashing, etc.). I see you have a bit more air bubbles than my casting. How is your front end looking? My passenger lower portion looks a bit off and needs to be corrected.

For the $$ it could have been FAR better. As someone stated in the previous thread (Hobby Design 1/24 Ferrari 599XX Super Detail-Up Set (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=970327)) Hobby Design should have just cast a 1-piece body and charged more for it like the R8 GT kit. I've started on it and as far as the body goes you'll only end up using less than 1/4 of the original body (not including the chassis).

HD does not include a very nice Staubli fuel filler for some reason despite having all the other accessories. Their fuel filler kit for the FXX looks real similar and I've ordered one up to see the difference.

Anyone have any additional pics of the interior? A good majority that I have are of the center portion but I'd like to see more of the doors and even the back. I've got a handful of the door portion and back but more reference is always better. :iceslolan

Good luck on yours!

I have also started mine and I would NOT RECOMMEND anyone getting the kit unless you have a real love for sanding and puttying! It's definitely not worth the money!

for the rims.

Studio 27 could make a killing selling there BBS white metal rims, they appear to be the most accurate BBS rims made


Hi Steve,

these wheels cannot be used it you want to make the 1:1 599XX. At the original car the Y spokes end at the outer part of the wheel

Micha, one question, I was thinking I could bend the spokes, did you try this before, I will drill the hole in the center, put the screw through, screw it to some plastic on the other end, put in hot water and easily tighten the screw, I am not sure would it work but I will try it for sure, after that you only need to sand outer part of the rim to get those spokes on the edge.

Micha, one question, I was thinking I could bend the spokes, did you try this before, I will drill the hole in the center, put the screw through, screw it to some plastic on the other end, put in hot water and easily tighten the screw, I am not sure would it work but I will try it for sure, after that you only need to sand outer part of the rim to get those spokes on the edge.

That´s an interesting idea, Sasa. Just one thing: if the wheel with the screw is in hot water, the outer ring itself gets softer, too. If you tighten the srew, the outer ring might be deformed?

Hi Steve,

these wheels cannot be used it you want to make the 1:1 599XX. At the original car the Y spokes end at the outer part of the wheel

the wheel offset also looks a bit off on the ST27 peugeot wheels. the 1:1 version though looks like it has a similar front offset to the 599xx.

19x11 front, 19x12 rear would be the widths for the 599xx but I'm not sure on the offsets but they don't look as aggressive as the ST27 peugeot wheels.

sorry, but I`m not your opinion



Well, i refering to the front set of wheels from the S27 kit. Though its not 100% accurate but its the closest we have so far.

Ro

Just got my kit...

None of my parts have bubbles and everything seems to be in good condition except one of the hood vents looks like it was short-shot in one of the corners so I will have to add some material.

The resin has a fragile feel to it upon a quick inspection....I'm hoping it's tougher than it seems.

These guys seem to be decent artisans, sans the wheels, but could use better resin materials and casting techniques.

The price is too high based on the origin of the kit.....if it had a full body, chassis, seats and correct wheel design it would be in range.

The stock 599 interior will have to be heavily modified and also the chassis to make a proper car.

This transkit gets you half way there....the rest is up to you.

Now for the good news....

I did some test fitting on a Revell 599 body and the fitment is just as good as on the Fujimi body.

If you have acquired the skills to make this conversion in it's intended form then you will have no problem making the minor adjustments to the Revell kit...and you'll save some money.:iceslolan

Good to hear veyron!

..., but I read somewhere that Hobby Design photo etch is very thick. How do you find it in this set..??


Sorry of the late answer, very busy at the moment ;-)).

The etched parts are 0,15 and 0,25 mm thick.


@ all: Thanks for all your input !!

Looking again at the transkit, I noticed the the wheels seem to be too deep for the wheelwells, the front wheels would need a widening of the fenders to be covered.

Maybe this is a reason, that you never saw photos from Hobby Design themselves of finished models or WIPs with (f.e. primed models and) their etched parts at a model

just got in the FXX "Staubli" fuel filling port kit from Hobby Design (HD07-0047). looks like its a great fit for the 599xx. the added bonus is you can use the remaining 3 for future projects. :biggrin:

Nice review Micha~ there're some info i can share about this particular kit. the guy who did the master work of this kit(as well as all other recent HD kits) is quite a serious dude. The 599XX kit is the very kit he had put most of his efforts into, the working progress is really impressive. I dont have this kit but from this point i guess you can at least get a decent body. the wheels are just pieces of crap to me too, that's why i didnt buy the kit. they didn't have 3d engraving technique at that time so the wheels were made by their "traditional method" which is piling PE frets as they did to most of their wheels. So you can see the wheels were all flat, without any curves. As to the PE sets, well, if you're familiar enough with HD(or former CM) stuff you should know they always look good but not as good to work with. They didn't testfit all the parts before the new products hit the market, you get quite a big fret from them but at least you realized there're just very few of them that you actually used.

Thanks for your input, auw12

They didn't testfit all the parts before the new products hit the market

Nearly unbelievable - is that the sense of "Quality" ?




you get quite a big fret from them but at least you realized there're just very few of them that you actually used.


This is great for modelers, who think, the more p/e parts they use, the better the model gets

I have played a bit last night, tried hot water method but didn't work until wheel number three :D
So spokes broke from the rim on first two with minimum bending and on wheel three I used almost boiling water but of course that warped the rim.
So I cut the spokes out and used rim from test number two, sanded a bit and this is result.
Not so good but closer then original one.
Let's hope someone will do it right or at least in white metal as you can play a bit more with it.
Some pictures
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/sjelic/PC165788.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/sjelic/PC165790.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/sjelic/PC165792.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/sjelic/PC165795.jpg

Does anybody started this transkit?
I fight wit my a third day and the only thing that I finished is rear part of the body – rear luggage cover and rear bumper.
I have to corrected the curves (the cover was too flat) and my bumper had a deformation and was 1mm shorted as it should be.
The back just need a delicate corrections and I go to next step – whole front part of the body.
In my opinion this transkit need a lot of work and it isn’t for inexperienced modelers like a Gemballa transkit is (Geronimo Works).

Molds deteriorate very rapidly with age, and I also noticed that a lot of Chinese manufacturers use resin that shrinks over time. That is why I always trying to get one of the first transkits from the mold to ensure clean copy. There is nothing I can do about resin shrinkage (which I believe is a problem here too).

About the time we all finish struggling with this fussy kit someone will for sure release a better one.:banghead:

I have to have mine done for the ACME show 2010.

Does anybody started this transkit?
I fight wit my a third day and the only thing that I finished is rear part of the body – rear luggage cover and rear bumper.
I have to corrected the curves (the cover was too flat) and my bumper had a deformation and was 1mm shorted as it should be.
The back just need a delicate corrections and I go to next step – whole front part of the body.
In my opinion this transkit need a lot of work and it isn’t for inexperienced modelers like a Gemballa transkit is (Geronimo Works).

Been working on mine off and on for the better part of December. The holiday season, plus other kits that are a bit simpler means this one doesn't get the complete attention it needs just yet. I've been banging my head just like everyone else though :banghead:. I think we're all working on different parts at the same time. Maybe we can just throw all of ours together and actually complete one. :icon16::screwy:

All kidding aside. I've cut out the rear bumper and trunklid section. I've also added in the center console piece in the interior.

About the time we all finish struggling with this fussy kit someone will for sure release a better one.:banghead:


Yeah...I still would like to think it would be Fujimi :biggrin:

Yeah...I still would like to think it would be Fujimi :biggrin:


The problem with Ferrari, as with many other brands, is they show cars too long before they are available to customers. The 599xx is not in the hands of anyone yet which makes it difficult for a model maker to commit to tooling up.:frown:

Nice review Micha~ there're some info i can share about this particular kit. the guy who did the master work of this kit(as well as all other recent HD kits) is quite a serious dude. The 599XX kit is the very kit he had put most of his efforts into, the working progress is really impressive. I dont have this kit but from this point i guess you can at least get a decent body. the wheels are just pieces of crap to me too, that's why i didnt buy the kit. they didn't have 3d engraving technique at that time so the wheels were made by their "traditional method" which is piling PE frets as they did to most of their wheels. So you can see the wheels were all flat, without any curves. As to the PE sets, well, if you're familiar enough with HD(or former CM) stuff you should know they always look good but not as good to work with. They didn't testfit all the parts before the new products hit the market, you get quite a big fret from them but at least you realized there're just very few of them that you actually used.

Wey wey buddy... great to see you're alive :D

Hi guys,

not so good news: a German modelling friend started with the transkit:

Here the disapointing photos:

The rear isn´t long enough at the wheelwell

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/6665626462623631.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/6630633731666662.jpg


The rear skirt is to short, is doesn´t end where the body ends (see left side)

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/3464303634626264.jpg


The curve of body and skirt are different

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/6432353334306630.jpg

I have also started mine, simmilar experiences.
Here some pictures:
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_19.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_24.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_25.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_26.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_27.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_28.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_29.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_33.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_34.jpg
http://out.pl/mporta/F599xx/F599xx_35.jpg

It doesn't fit the Revell body any worse than that.

I have also started mine, simmilar experiences.
Here some pictures:


Lots of work, but what you did looks very promising

Thanks for sharing. Thats one thing i hate is the t-kit not fitting. It seems like that happens a lot. But the ferrari looks sooo good that i think one will tackle the problems.

portalus: Prosze pokacz nam twuj 599xx.

They should have just cast a complete new body. At the price they charge for this kit you would expect more. Nice photoetch and resin parts that are very poorly engineered. And you have not even gotten to the interior and wheels yet, wich are wrong or incomplete. What a pain to build.

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2010 model/photo contest-Chicago April 24th 2010

I think I'm going to cut the rear spoiler loose from the deck lid and mold it straight to the body. That's a unnecessary step to me to have to cut the deck lid out and fool with refitting the new one.

I think I'm going to cut the rear spoiler loose from the deck lid and mold it straight to the body. That's a unnecessary step to me to have to cut the deck lid out and fool with refitting the new one.

If someone needs another reardeck/spoiler pm me! Someday I am going to turn the car+tk into a fictional GT1 racer and don't need that part.

If someone needs another reardeck/spoiler pm me! Someday I am going to turn the car+tk into a fictional GT1 racer and don't need that part.

I've had a 599 GT1 made and in primer for over a year...just can't seen to focus on it and get it finished. The 599xx I'm obligated to have done by November this year.

Does anyone know the wheel sizes for the Corvette C6R (GT1 version, I believe)? They look a bit similar to the ones used on the 599xx, maybe they might be a better substitute instead of the already suggested Peugeot 908 wheels.

Does anyone know the wheel sizes for the Corvette C6R (GT1 version, I believe)? They look a bit similar to the ones used on the 599xx, maybe they might be a better substitute instead of the already suggested Peugeot 908 wheels.

The best C6-R rims are in the Scale Motor Sport upgrade set....but they scale out too small diameter for the 599xx.

The best C6-R rims are in the Scale Motor Sport upgrade set....but they scale out too small diameter for the 599xx.

Yah, that's exactly where I saw them and got to thinking if they were similar in size. :lol: *shrug* Too bad.