94 caprice suspension
JFLO
11-24-2009, 10:50 PM
My 94 caprice ride is spongy it feels as if it rolls idk how to explain it real floaty like in the rear could it be shocks or springs or are they just like that because somebody else i know said the same about there 95 and 91 caprice and another thing is when u drive sometimes it hesitates u have to hit the gas a little harder to go is that the damn optispark again?
JFLO
11-24-2009, 10:54 PM
and does anybody know if these work to really lift or if they really fit my 94 caprice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-1996-CHEVY-CAPRICE-IMPALA-3-REAR-SHOCK-EXTENDER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19b7f86ac2QQit emZ110460693186QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5 fAccessories
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j cAT
11-25-2009, 09:55 AM
and does anybody know if these work to really lift or if they really fit my 94 caprice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-1996-CHEVY-CAPRICE-IMPALA-3-REAR-SHOCK-EXTENDER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19b7f86ac2QQit emZ110460693186QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5 fAccessories
this part is for using when raising you vehicle to ride much higher. this is not what most do/want...
you need new bilstien sport shocks with the 9c1 HD springs.all four..
at this time you replace all the sway bar bushings.
then you will not have that old man boat ride...
but its gonna cost ya...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-1996-CHEVY-CAPRICE-IMPALA-3-REAR-SHOCK-EXTENDER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19b7f86ac2QQit emZ110460693186QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5 fAccessories
this part is for using when raising you vehicle to ride much higher. this is not what most do/want...
you need new bilstien sport shocks with the 9c1 HD springs.all four..
at this time you replace all the sway bar bushings.
then you will not have that old man boat ride...
but its gonna cost ya...
96capricemgr
11-25-2009, 05:54 PM
Find the local club and ask for help.
I would NOT go replacing springs just yet.
Shocks might be a good idea. Bilstein 0929 are nice but so are Monroe Severe Service for less money.
Depending how tha car was optioned it may or maynot have a rear swaybar. If it does not they are easy to add.
Front swaybar bushings could be worn too.
Really though find the local club and they can help you diagnose things better. The forums will be of more help to you in diagnosis/repair once you are a bit more knowledgable and can tell us more.
Do NOT be in a big hurry to throw anything "police" at the car, the police cars were NOT really upgraded.
I would NOT go replacing springs just yet.
Shocks might be a good idea. Bilstein 0929 are nice but so are Monroe Severe Service for less money.
Depending how tha car was optioned it may or maynot have a rear swaybar. If it does not they are easy to add.
Front swaybar bushings could be worn too.
Really though find the local club and they can help you diagnose things better. The forums will be of more help to you in diagnosis/repair once you are a bit more knowledgable and can tell us more.
Do NOT be in a big hurry to throw anything "police" at the car, the police cars were NOT really upgraded.
j cAT
11-25-2009, 06:31 PM
another thing is when u drive sometimes it hesitates u have to hit the gas a little harder to go is that the damn optispark again?
when you worked on the opti the last time did you see any water pump leaks ? have you checked the water pump weep hole for coolant stains/wetness..???
when you worked on the opti the last time did you see any water pump leaks ? have you checked the water pump weep hole for coolant stains/wetness..???
Blue Bowtie
11-26-2009, 10:31 AM
Two words - Body Bushings.
Putting in ALL the frame-to-body bushings helped stiffen up my '94 to the point of getting some real feedback and less floaty feel.
Putting in ALL the frame-to-body bushings helped stiffen up my '94 to the point of getting some real feedback and less floaty feel.
j cAT
11-26-2009, 04:03 PM
Two words - Body Bushings.
Putting in ALL the frame-to-body bushings helped stiffen up my '94 to the point of getting some real feedback and less floaty feel.
I forgot about that ...they have a kit with the harder stiffer bushings..
not an easy install...after all the other work is done then if necessary use the stiffer bushing kit...
Putting in ALL the frame-to-body bushings helped stiffen up my '94 to the point of getting some real feedback and less floaty feel.
I forgot about that ...they have a kit with the harder stiffer bushings..
not an easy install...after all the other work is done then if necessary use the stiffer bushing kit...
JFLO
11-27-2009, 05:08 PM
when you worked on the opti the last time did you see any water pump leaks ? have you checked the water pump weep hole for coolant stains/wetness..???
i re-routed the weep hole already
i re-routed the weep hole already
JFLO
11-27-2009, 05:12 PM
[quote=j cAT;6070324]did you see any water pump leaks the last time ? why did the opti fail earlier ?
i bought the car for 400 cuz it would crank but not move you could push the damn thing faster than u could accelerate so i replaced cap and rotor didnt work it was the actual opti that was messed up replaced the whole thing(opti) and ran like a champ i think the cap and rotor is messed up cuz a hose clamp messed up and slipped off i think the opti got wet but im not sure
i bought the car for 400 cuz it would crank but not move you could push the damn thing faster than u could accelerate so i replaced cap and rotor didnt work it was the actual opti that was messed up replaced the whole thing(opti) and ran like a champ i think the cap and rotor is messed up cuz a hose clamp messed up and slipped off i think the opti got wet but im not sure
j cAT
11-27-2009, 05:31 PM
[quote=j cAT;6070324]did you see any water pump leaks the last time ? why did the opti fail earlier ?
i bought the car for 400 cuz it would crank but not move you could push the damn thing faster than u could accelerate so i replaced cap and rotor didnt work it was the actual opti that was messed up replaced the whole thing(opti) and ran like a champ i think the cap and rotor is messed up cuz a hose clamp messed up and slipped off i think the opti got wet but im not sure
that coolant with the optical sensor is trouble..it don't take much. as you know the opti spark is a pain to get to , and is very expensive.
the weep hole drain relocation is a proven way to avoid coolant issues...I have found on occation the weep hole to leak out some coolant. I can't explain why it will then stop for a year then leak again for a few days..just enough to mess up the opti , with the drain relocation though its no problem..
i bought the car for 400 cuz it would crank but not move you could push the damn thing faster than u could accelerate so i replaced cap and rotor didnt work it was the actual opti that was messed up replaced the whole thing(opti) and ran like a champ i think the cap and rotor is messed up cuz a hose clamp messed up and slipped off i think the opti got wet but im not sure
that coolant with the optical sensor is trouble..it don't take much. as you know the opti spark is a pain to get to , and is very expensive.
the weep hole drain relocation is a proven way to avoid coolant issues...I have found on occation the weep hole to leak out some coolant. I can't explain why it will then stop for a year then leak again for a few days..just enough to mess up the opti , with the drain relocation though its no problem..
JFLO
11-27-2009, 05:38 PM
[quote=JFLO;6071031]
that coolant with the optical sensor is trouble..it don't take much. as you know the opti spark is a pain to get to , and is very expensive.
the weep hole drain relocation is a proven way to avoid coolant issues...I have found on occation the weep hole to leak out some coolant. I can't explain why it will then stop for a year then leak again for a few days..just enough to mess up the opti , with the drain relocation though its no problem..
yea i think ill just replace cap an rotor i have one already just dnt wanna take it all apart again i have done it like 4-5 times now so any suggestion on the floaty ride im going to check the shocks tomorrow ill put the car up on the lift
that coolant with the optical sensor is trouble..it don't take much. as you know the opti spark is a pain to get to , and is very expensive.
the weep hole drain relocation is a proven way to avoid coolant issues...I have found on occation the weep hole to leak out some coolant. I can't explain why it will then stop for a year then leak again for a few days..just enough to mess up the opti , with the drain relocation though its no problem..
yea i think ill just replace cap an rotor i have one already just dnt wanna take it all apart again i have done it like 4-5 times now so any suggestion on the floaty ride im going to check the shocks tomorrow ill put the car up on the lift
sgbuick
11-28-2009, 12:26 AM
Just curious, what is this drain hole relocation mentioned below? I have noticed that my water pump on my 96 is occasionally wet on the bottom, and I have also been getting an intermittent surge/misfire, especially when going up hills. I wonder if the 2 are related?
Blue Bowtie
11-28-2009, 10:54 AM
I forgot about that ...they have a kit with the harder stiffer bushings..
not an easy install...after all the other work is done then if necessary use the stiffer bushing kit...
My suggestions was not to replace suspension bushings, but to install body bushings in all the mount locations. The factory elected to install mount bushings in only a few locations, allowing the body to float more on the frame. There are seven locations along each side of the car with body mounts, probably three of which are without bushings installed.
Replacing the upper bushings with GMPN 457915 in the first six locations and 457917 in the rearmost location will clamp the body to the frame nicely and stiffen up the entire assembly.
http://www.wwdsltd.com/files/BBodyBushings.jpg
not an easy install...after all the other work is done then if necessary use the stiffer bushing kit...
My suggestions was not to replace suspension bushings, but to install body bushings in all the mount locations. The factory elected to install mount bushings in only a few locations, allowing the body to float more on the frame. There are seven locations along each side of the car with body mounts, probably three of which are without bushings installed.
Replacing the upper bushings with GMPN 457915 in the first six locations and 457917 in the rearmost location will clamp the body to the frame nicely and stiffen up the entire assembly.
http://www.wwdsltd.com/files/BBodyBushings.jpg
JFLO
11-29-2009, 07:27 PM
anybody know if these are any good
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j cAT
11-29-2009, 08:44 PM
monroe shocks are not what I would use..........
kyb possible.. bilstien sport shocks yes!
what is the height of your vehicle ...at each wheel well center point to the ground, on level surface..?
did you check the shocks you have in there.? you will want a double action shock a shock that resist going in both directions..the stock shocks go down easy then slowly come up..
kyb possible.. bilstien sport shocks yes!
what is the height of your vehicle ...at each wheel well center point to the ground, on level surface..?
did you check the shocks you have in there.? you will want a double action shock a shock that resist going in both directions..the stock shocks go down easy then slowly come up..
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