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JamieR
11-06-2009, 11:01 PM
I just did my winter hard top for the season, hooked up the plug for the rear heater and it works but it's cranking out cold air even when I am up to running temperature. Front heater is blowing lots of heat. Am I missing something? Is there something other than the plug I need to hook up?

fourwd1
11-09-2009, 01:49 PM
What do you mean "hooked up the plug for the rear heater" ?

The console heater?
Why was it 'unhooked' ?
What year truck ?

JamieR
11-09-2009, 09:48 PM
89 4Runner, had the heater unplugged from the center console for the summer, along with the window switch, and the wiper as I had no hard top on for the summer. Getting my thermostat changed out tomorrow.

fourwd1
11-12-2009, 08:55 PM
OK, I understand now. I take my hard shell off in the summer too, but I don't disconnect the console heater.
If you're getting normal heat up front, the t-stat is OK and you should be getting it in the rear. Are you getting coolant flow to the rear? Maybe there's an air pocket in the lines to the rear.

JamieR
11-13-2009, 10:36 AM
That's something I would not have thought of. Airlock to the back line.... I am draining out my coolant, replacing it and giving a good radiator flush. Should fix it. My mechanic seemed to think that my front heater was working normal, so I guess I'll soon find out.

JamieR
11-19-2009, 09:18 PM
Replaced the thermostat, found my rad cap was leaking. Replaced it, now it runs smooth, temperature is good driving around but once warm and sitting idling the temp goes up. Front heater is pounding hot air, rear heater is still totally cold. If I move the temp switch up or down it slightly changes for a second and goes back to cold.

I found a bit of coolant under the rad cap on the top of the rad after turning the rear heater on today. Otherwise the cap has been dry for days. Is this an airlock? Can I run the truck cap off until I get some heat? If it does not get hot what is the next step?

Appreciate any help
Thanks

4Wheel
11-24-2009, 04:00 AM
What year? The heater systems alot of times need to be "burped". That is accomplished before pressure is built up the top heater core hose loosened enough to "burp" the air that is trapped in the high spot of the line.
Air locks air usually result in both heaters not working so you may still have a flow issue to the rear heater core.

fourwd1
11-24-2009, 01:32 PM
What year?

He has a removeable top, therefore it's an 84-89.

jdmccright
11-24-2009, 04:37 PM
Does coolant flow through the rear core all the time or does it have a flow control valve that is operated by the rear controls? I ask because my Camry adjusts the temperature this way and not by a bypass flap. If so, the valve could be stuck.

JamieR
11-25-2009, 12:39 AM
Does the coolant flow through a rear core? Is there a control valve in the rear? I don't know for sure. Only release screw I found was bottom front under the rad. I did find out today that it is my rad cap leaking again. I did just replace it, 13psi is right for the rad cap right? My overflow tube is quite long and in a big S. Could this be too long and have to push too much pressure for the cap to hold? Seems it comes out the cap and it's not getting to the overflow resivoir. Could this be right?

Can I "burp" the system by just leaving the cap off the rad and letting it come up to temperature or do I have to take the top hose off?

jdmccright
11-30-2009, 01:40 PM
When you disconnected the rear lines, did you drain it and plug it or leave the coolant in there and plug it?

If left filled, you may have plugging of the rear core due to biogrowth and/or corrosion. The heat normally kills any biocontaminants but some coolants have added biocides. However, they must be continually cycled through the system to replenish the active ingredients. Same goes for the corrosion inhibitors. You need the mixing action to keep the coolant homogeneous and prevent depletion at the core surfaces.

JamieR
12-03-2009, 12:44 PM
I have simply just disconnected the sensor plug under the center console for the rear heater so the fan would not operate. I did not know there was a seperate heater core for the rear fan. Also my truck was in storage for about three years, sitting idle.
With the fan unplugged only should there not have been coolant still flowing through the entire system all the time?
I have fresh coolant in the system, clear and no corrosion, the rear heater fan runs but still cold. It is slightly getting a little warmer/better, hoping over time it will improve. It's winter and I will have to wait for spring/summer to replace my rear heater core.
There is a switch at the back of the intake manifold somewhere that is to be opened for the rear heater right? I cannot see or find it, and am not sure if it was ever closed or adjusted.

jdmccright
12-03-2009, 01:38 PM
I checked online and confirmed that you have a separate heater core/fan assembly for the rear. From photos I have seen, the heater core is positioned such that air would be difficult to purge.

I would find the coolant lines and feel them to see if they are indeed getting hot. If they aren't then they may be blocked by gunk or by a rusted shut control valve. Trace the coolant lines until you see a little coupling with a cable attached to an actuator arm...this is the valve. There should be a similar one for the front heater located in the engine bay mounted to the firewall above the engine.

You may be able to loosen the valve up, but from what I read you are better off replacing it with valves from the 88-89 trucks since they won't rust.

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