GTS Rule Change
Racer9007
09-30-2009, 04:21 PM
This just in from the SCCA
Cars – Panoz Esperante GTS, p. 290, add to the notes as follows: “Internal modification to stock Penske 7500 shocks is permitted.
Shock seals are not required.”
The large request I made is going to require a technical sheet from Panoz, I will work on getting this list from Panoz for the updates
Matt
Cars – Panoz Esperante GTS, p. 290, add to the notes as follows: “Internal modification to stock Penske 7500 shocks is permitted.
Shock seals are not required.”
The large request I made is going to require a technical sheet from Panoz, I will work on getting this list from Panoz for the updates
Matt
Wess-RA
10-10-2009, 12:16 PM
Matt that's awesome. Is there ever a chance of getting a rules change allowing for a higher rear wing and a front splitter?
Also, as you are undoubtedly aware SCCA kicked us out of the STO class. I think Kevin is working on putting us into another class/run group to compliment GT2. I really like doing 2 run groups to justify the time and expense in showing up to an event.
Also, as you are undoubtedly aware SCCA kicked us out of the STO class. I think Kevin is working on putting us into another class/run group to compliment GT2. I really like doing 2 run groups to justify the time and expense in showing up to an event.
panozracing
10-10-2009, 01:45 PM
I dont like SCCA. No run time and I dont think the GTS is a fair fight with the 997 and the other GT2's. NASA ST1 and 2 is more fair IMHO.
Racer9007
10-10-2009, 07:11 PM
Porsche 997 is not allowed in GT2 in the SCCA
panozracing
10-10-2009, 07:32 PM
Since when?
So only the stock cup car 996? When the 997 first came out wasnt it legal? we stopped racing SCCA when the 997 was less than 2 years old.
I stand corrected. The 996 is a fair fight.
So only the stock cup car 996? When the 997 first came out wasnt it legal? we stopped racing SCCA when the 997 was less than 2 years old.
I stand corrected. The 996 is a fair fight.
boothkc
10-10-2009, 07:56 PM
Brian,
any chance you could post a little info about NASA and where the Panoz fits in? We may dump the SCCA next season if they dont get a little more friendly to our P cars. We have 5+ of them in the Bay area and maybe should give some thoughts to NASA.
How much track time do you get on a "typical" weekend? What are the car restrictions (HP, mods etc)??
thanks,
Kevin
any chance you could post a little info about NASA and where the Panoz fits in? We may dump the SCCA next season if they dont get a little more friendly to our P cars. We have 5+ of them in the Bay area and maybe should give some thoughts to NASA.
How much track time do you get on a "typical" weekend? What are the car restrictions (HP, mods etc)??
thanks,
Kevin
Wess-RA
10-10-2009, 08:16 PM
Kevin, I'd be on board with you on that, if it makes sense. I don't think we would be the first to have gone over to the other side.
RacingIsLife
10-10-2009, 08:41 PM
Kevin - I run Nasa with Brian. I'm sure brian will chime in, but i'll kick off the response...
ST-1 and ST-2 are classes built around weight/hp ratios. There are many different cars that are allowed to run in the classes. Each car gets a mod factor that gets added or subtracted from your hp/weight ratio. Also, things like running slicks get a mod factor. All of the specifics can be found on Nasa's website. (there is a classing form that should explain everything)
We built our cars for ST-1, the faster of the two categories. But, we have also seen closer-to-stock panoz cars running in ST-2. since the class is almost purely based on weight/hp the competition gets very close. We found ourselves very equally matched with the vette's in our class.
they don't care how you get to your weight/hp... any engine, any mods, any suspension, any tires, any wing, splitter, etc. etc. etc.! run what you brung!
you may ask... how do they police it? Well - at nationals, they have an ON-SITE DYNO! You come off the track, they select cars, and you go straight to the dyno and the scales. its pretty fair. the only issue is that all dyno's are different. for example, we found that the dyno at nationals last year read much lower then the dyno tests we had done in fl.
Most nasa events have plenty of track time. our Florida events are typically Sat/Sun, with a 30 min qualifying, and two 30 min sprint races each day, or sometimes 30 min practice, 30 min qualifying, and 45, 60, or 90min race.
ST-1 and ST-2 are classes built around weight/hp ratios. There are many different cars that are allowed to run in the classes. Each car gets a mod factor that gets added or subtracted from your hp/weight ratio. Also, things like running slicks get a mod factor. All of the specifics can be found on Nasa's website. (there is a classing form that should explain everything)
We built our cars for ST-1, the faster of the two categories. But, we have also seen closer-to-stock panoz cars running in ST-2. since the class is almost purely based on weight/hp the competition gets very close. We found ourselves very equally matched with the vette's in our class.
they don't care how you get to your weight/hp... any engine, any mods, any suspension, any tires, any wing, splitter, etc. etc. etc.! run what you brung!
you may ask... how do they police it? Well - at nationals, they have an ON-SITE DYNO! You come off the track, they select cars, and you go straight to the dyno and the scales. its pretty fair. the only issue is that all dyno's are different. for example, we found that the dyno at nationals last year read much lower then the dyno tests we had done in fl.
Most nasa events have plenty of track time. our Florida events are typically Sat/Sun, with a 30 min qualifying, and two 30 min sprint races each day, or sometimes 30 min practice, 30 min qualifying, and 45, 60, or 90min race.
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