rookie f#$k up
all power
08-13-2009, 02:31 PM
got 99 gtp w/91000 on her just got done doing mods to her and she seems to run alot better , BETTER THAN BEFORE BY A LONG SHOT,what did was 3.25 pulley/ported man headers/cai/hi-flow cat/u-bend delete/super44s/no resistor/180 t-stat/ngk155s i think? they are two heat ranges colder/the only thing i have not done was the pcm....... i know iknow that should of been the first thing but forgot.... my ? is a guy down the road as the same car same everthing... he has a pcm from zzp 1.0 will it work in my car??????????:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghe ad:
thatGTPkid
08-13-2009, 05:19 PM
the 1.0 ecu upgrade is more for lightly moded gtp's cold air intake,u-bed delete mufflers a 3.6 pully ect the little things.since ur running ported heads and a 3.25 ur gunna want to get the 2.0 ecu try www.3800preformance.com (http://www.3800preformance.com) i get my parts from them.i hope u did u-bend delete though or that'll be another big uhoh
BNaylor
08-13-2009, 07:17 PM
the 1.0 ecu upgrade is more for lightly moded gtp's cold air intake,u-bed delete mufflers a 3.6 pully ect the little things.since ur running ported heads and a 3.25 ur gunna want to get the 2.0 ecu try
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Thats funny. I had no issues running a DHP v1.0 PCM with a 3.25" SC pulley, of course with supporting mods. I now have a custom programmed Intense. These v1.0 PCMs are programmed to go as low as 3.20-3.25" on SC pulleys. Check the specs at the link you provided at 3800Performance which has a typo.
www.3800performance.com
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Thats funny. I had no issues running a DHP v1.0 PCM with a 3.25" SC pulley, of course with supporting mods. I now have a custom programmed Intense. These v1.0 PCMs are programmed to go as low as 3.20-3.25" on SC pulleys. Check the specs at the link you provided at 3800Performance which has a typo.
www.3800performance.com
tblake
08-13-2009, 07:26 PM
No issues here either (check mods in sig). I was running a 1.0 for a while but I have never went any lower than a 3.4 pulley.
Maybe he should look into a powertuner (for the cost of a PCM with 2.0 bin on it).
Maybe he should look into a powertuner (for the cost of a PCM with 2.0 bin on it).
all power
08-14-2009, 12:02 PM
now the ? is what is KR and do i have it? and how do i know? and the mods i did will it make it better/worst? and if i do have it what does it sound like? and how do i get rid of it? and will the pcm from another gtp same year same everthing work in my car ? he only wants 50$ for it....and i was wrong on the pulley its a 3.4
doctorhrdware
08-14-2009, 02:01 PM
KR = knock retard.
richtazz
08-14-2009, 03:06 PM
doctor, you don't have to be rude and call him a retard, it's a valid question...:lol:
Just kidding, KR (knock retard) is created when the PCM detects knock often caused by pre-ignition, and retards timing to try to eliminate it. This situation will be amplified by running a smaller pulley (and your other mods) due to the increased boost.
KR reduces performance and is an indicator that there is a possible problem that could cause engine damage if not rectified.
Lastly, with the mods you're talking, don't even think about running less than 91 octane.
Just kidding, KR (knock retard) is created when the PCM detects knock often caused by pre-ignition, and retards timing to try to eliminate it. This situation will be amplified by running a smaller pulley (and your other mods) due to the increased boost.
KR reduces performance and is an indicator that there is a possible problem that could cause engine damage if not rectified.
Lastly, with the mods you're talking, don't even think about running less than 91 octane.
all power
08-14-2009, 03:29 PM
so how do i know if i have it? can i hear it? and with the mods ive done did i make it worse? and ive always ran 93 up to 110 octane... and im still yrying to get a answer about the pcm?
richtazz
08-14-2009, 04:24 PM
so how do i know if i have it?
KR monitoring software is the best way to monitor it
can i hear it?
Pre-ignition knock/ping is a "marbles in a coffee can" type of sound you may hear during hard accelleration.
and with the mods ive done did i make it worse?
You may or may not have any knock or KR, it all depends on your combination. Ideally, you want 0 knock and 0 KR. Monitoring software like a scan tool, power programmer or auto-tap would be helpful.
and ive always ran 93 up to 110 octane... and im still yrying to get a answer about the pcm?
did you read posts 2-4? You have 3 answers right there. Post 2 and 4 stated that a 1.0 may not be optimal for your setup, and suggested a more aggressive tuning option. Post 3 says it will work and even gives you a like to a website referencing it.
KR monitoring software is the best way to monitor it
can i hear it?
Pre-ignition knock/ping is a "marbles in a coffee can" type of sound you may hear during hard accelleration.
and with the mods ive done did i make it worse?
You may or may not have any knock or KR, it all depends on your combination. Ideally, you want 0 knock and 0 KR. Monitoring software like a scan tool, power programmer or auto-tap would be helpful.
and ive always ran 93 up to 110 octane... and im still yrying to get a answer about the pcm?
did you read posts 2-4? You have 3 answers right there. Post 2 and 4 stated that a 1.0 may not be optimal for your setup, and suggested a more aggressive tuning option. Post 3 says it will work and even gives you a like to a website referencing it.
doctorhrdware
08-14-2009, 08:23 PM
[quote=richtazz;6021303]doctor, you don't have to be rude and call him a retard, it's a valid question...:lol:
I am telling your being mean to me.:nono::lol2:
I am telling your being mean to me.:nono::lol2:
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