Jetta Diesel in a 70' Charger?
Shpuker
07-24-2009, 10:23 PM
Just got this idea one day watching a VW commercial,
what if you bought a new jetta diesel engine (and onther parts necissary to adapt it to he Charger of course) and modifyed it to fit a 1970 Dodge Charger? I don't know if this would be possible but it seems likeit could be.
post any comments on the idea of course but one thing I'm hoping to hear is some estimates on parts and total and parts cost.
what if you bought a new jetta diesel engine (and onther parts necissary to adapt it to he Charger of course) and modifyed it to fit a 1970 Dodge Charger? I don't know if this would be possible but it seems likeit could be.
post any comments on the idea of course but one thing I'm hoping to hear is some estimates on parts and total and parts cost.
BlueDjinn
07-25-2009, 01:21 PM
Well... your imagination knows no bounds and I'll give you points for originality but do you realize that even the most up to date Jetta diesel
engine only develops about 140 horsepower and 235 ft/lbs torque. That is slant-six territory (145hp@215ft/lbs). I really don't know anyone that
wants 140 horsepower in a 1970 Dodge Charger and I can assure you that any kind of respectible horsepower from a Jetta diesel will cost serious
money. Just over 300 (318) horsepower at around 493 ft/lbs torque can be had from the Jetta diesel which puts you in the neighbourhood of having
a 383 B series gasoline V8. The man that you would want to talk to about doing anything like this is TOM CALVERT at Illinois Dyno Center, 1010 N.
High Street, Port Byron, Illinois 61275. (309) 523-9200 Fax (309) 523-9204.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tom-calvert/5/64/38 http://www.illinoisdynocenter.biz/main.sc
engine only develops about 140 horsepower and 235 ft/lbs torque. That is slant-six territory (145hp@215ft/lbs). I really don't know anyone that
wants 140 horsepower in a 1970 Dodge Charger and I can assure you that any kind of respectible horsepower from a Jetta diesel will cost serious
money. Just over 300 (318) horsepower at around 493 ft/lbs torque can be had from the Jetta diesel which puts you in the neighbourhood of having
a 383 B series gasoline V8. The man that you would want to talk to about doing anything like this is TOM CALVERT at Illinois Dyno Center, 1010 N.
High Street, Port Byron, Illinois 61275. (309) 523-9200 Fax (309) 523-9204.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tom-calvert/5/64/38 http://www.illinoisdynocenter.biz/main.sc
Shpuker
07-26-2009, 01:17 PM
I can see where horsepower would be a problem there. Think it would be possible to run a turbo and other horsepower boosters to get it to run around 300?
BlueDjinn
07-26-2009, 02:48 PM
Yes the Jetta diesel requires turbocharging. Pretty much all of the engine mechanical needs to be addressed to achieve respectable and reliable
horsepower output. Engine fasteners like capscrews need to be replaced with studs and nuts and not the counterfeit offshore crap either. I will
only use studs and nuts made in USA from American steel. They're the only ones that I trust in a big dollar engine and a Jetta diesel putting out
upwards of 300 to 350 horsepower is a big dollar engine.
Engine aside, have you given any consideration to what transmission would be mated to it. There are bell housing adapters available for joining
429-460 Ford engines onto GM Turbohydramatic transmissions for example. I rather have my doubts that there is a bell housing adapter in existence
for joining a Jetta diesel engine to a Chrysler Torqueflite transmission; so one would have to be created and a "one-off" certainly wouldn't be cheap.
If you are genuinely serious about proceeding with this little endeavour you might want to see if you can get yourself a nice case of diarrhea so
can start crapping out thousand dollar bills; and lots of them, cuz yer gonna need 'em.
Like I said in my previous post in which I provided links; the guy that you want to talk to about doing this is TOM CALVERT at Illinois Dyno.
horsepower output. Engine fasteners like capscrews need to be replaced with studs and nuts and not the counterfeit offshore crap either. I will
only use studs and nuts made in USA from American steel. They're the only ones that I trust in a big dollar engine and a Jetta diesel putting out
upwards of 300 to 350 horsepower is a big dollar engine.
Engine aside, have you given any consideration to what transmission would be mated to it. There are bell housing adapters available for joining
429-460 Ford engines onto GM Turbohydramatic transmissions for example. I rather have my doubts that there is a bell housing adapter in existence
for joining a Jetta diesel engine to a Chrysler Torqueflite transmission; so one would have to be created and a "one-off" certainly wouldn't be cheap.
If you are genuinely serious about proceeding with this little endeavour you might want to see if you can get yourself a nice case of diarrhea so
can start crapping out thousand dollar bills; and lots of them, cuz yer gonna need 'em.
Like I said in my previous post in which I provided links; the guy that you want to talk to about doing this is TOM CALVERT at Illinois Dyno.
Shpuker
07-26-2009, 04:29 PM
I sent dyno an email a few hours ago. and this would be something I want to do eventualy, right now I cant afford it but I think it would be a nice setup. as far as transmission that would be one of the hard parts. and as you said theres probaly no existing adaptor for that. one thing im gona look at a little to is looking into a mercedes diesel. I overlooked it at first cause the origonal engine itself owuld cost quite a bit more:bloated:
MagicRat
07-27-2009, 08:39 PM
Shpuker,
Please do not start multiple threads on the same subject.
It is annoying to other users.... like me, who just spent 15 minutes answering your other thread on this subject in Classic cars.... a posting that has been made largely redundant by the posts made here. :angryfire
BTW I'm not really mad.......... :)
Please do not start multiple threads on the same subject.
It is annoying to other users.... like me, who just spent 15 minutes answering your other thread on this subject in Classic cars.... a posting that has been made largely redundant by the posts made here. :angryfire
BTW I'm not really mad.......... :)
Shpuker
07-28-2009, 02:51 PM
yea I realized about a minute after posting them that the multiple posting deal was un-necissary :frown: won't happen again:chair:
cristian1985
06-01-2010, 03:23 AM
Good ideea but I don't think the body of jetta will support that . See more informations about that on autovit (http://www.dezmembrarimasini.ro)
sub006
06-16-2010, 10:52 PM
A local race mechanic made a very economical and roomy cruiser out of a '50s Studebaker Hawk body with a Nissan four cylinder and five speed.
When you lifted the hood and looked down, it seemed like there were about two feet of bare ground between the radiator and the fan on the front of the engine!
When you lifted the hood and looked down, it seemed like there were about two feet of bare ground between the radiator and the fan on the front of the engine!
arock7musicx
08-19-2010, 03:51 PM
Just got this idea one day watching a VW commercial,
what if you bought a new jetta diesel engine (and onther parts necissary to adapt it to he Charger of course) and modifyed it to fit a 1970 Dodge Charger? I don't know if this would be possible but it seems likeit could be.
post any comments on the idea of course but one thing I'm hoping to hear is some estimates on parts and total and parts cost.
bad idea :sly:
what if you bought a new jetta diesel engine (and onther parts necissary to adapt it to he Charger of course) and modifyed it to fit a 1970 Dodge Charger? I don't know if this would be possible but it seems likeit could be.
post any comments on the idea of course but one thing I'm hoping to hear is some estimates on parts and total and parts cost.
bad idea :sly:
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