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scale auto style
07-20-2009, 07:56 AM
hi guy's!!

Be carefull on ebay... a seller sells INCOMPLETE scale auto style transkit. i warn it but gave me shit. so i will do all my best to inform every modeler in regard of this.

the seller ID is http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/ca/s.gifebuystore (http://myworld.ebay.ca/ebuystore/) and his store name is Hobbies Evolution (http://stores.ebay.ca/Hobbies-Evolution)

right now his selling the 400R but doesn't have any clear lense supply.
also i'm suspecting they are conterfeit.

it's easy to recast resin but when it's time to do clear parts.... it's an other game. Small defrauder don't take the time to cast small clear parts.

so BE CAREFULL

yours

M-Tuning
07-20-2009, 02:03 PM
I bought my 400R kit from him too.

This is the one from ebuystore:

http://www.m-tuning.nl/test/content/WIPs/Nissan%20Skyline%20R33%20400R/IMG_5133.jpg

Pretty good, but no clear lenses as you stated.

And some pics from a fellow modeler on SPC which bought the transkit from the same person:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh284/koksik752/DSC02621.jpg
Set include:
Front and rear bumper:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh284/koksik752/DSC02622.jpg
Bonnet and flarefenders:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh284/koksik752/DSC02623.jpg
Side skirts:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh284/koksik752/DSC02624.jpg

scale auto style
07-20-2009, 03:08 PM
thank you for these info and picture you confirm me these are conterfeit.

yours

drunken monkey
07-20-2009, 05:14 PM
As the new owner of SAS, be sure to alert Ebay to this guy's practice of selling (counterfeit) copies of what is now your transkit.

scale auto style
07-20-2009, 05:54 PM
As the new owner of SAS, be sure to alert Ebay to this guy's practice of selling (counterfeit) copies of what is now your transkit.

already contact but

ebay F##?#%#@ doesn't care of me i'm to small for them to care of it... if my name was honda it was not the same thing...


yours

drunken monkey
07-20-2009, 06:01 PM
Don't let that stop you.
Just keep an eye out every time one of the copies comes up for sale.
At the end of the day it is your right to protect your products and it is in Ebay's own policy to remove counterfeit products from their listings.
Legally speaking, you are in the right no matter how big/little you are.
If this ever gets to court, you won't be the one paying the legal fees.

scale auto style
07-20-2009, 06:12 PM
Don't let that stop you.
....., you are in the right no matter how big/little you are.
If this ever gets to court, you won't be the one paying the legal fees.

in theoryy you are right.. but i know somebody that fight againts ebay. it took ove 5 years .. but during this time he have to pay all fees. by chance money was not a problem but for me... it's not the same thing. i can fight agains ebay but not 5 years.

anyway i will do all my best... less resin more photo-etched and clear parts. that's the way to go to be not conterfeit

yours

MidMazar
07-20-2009, 08:33 PM
They also have the 350z nismo kit, i bought it. Very dissapointed by it as the bumper and skirts are 3-4mm too small. Please don't buy.

Can't wait for the real SAS to get back on, do you have any idea when the brakes will be avaliable?

scale auto style
07-20-2009, 09:11 PM
They also have the 350z nismo kit, i bought it. Very dissapointed by it as the bumper and skirts are 3-4mm too small. Please don't buy.

Can't wait for the real SAS to get back on, do you have any idea when the brakes will be avaliable?

thank's for the info about the 350Z

they will be avaible around end of august.. to depend the speed of the manufacturer

yours

jano11
07-21-2009, 04:46 AM
in theoryy you are right.. but i know somebody that fight againts ebay. it took ove 5 years .. but during this time he have to pay all fees. by chance money was not a problem but for me... it's not the same thing. i can fight agains ebay but not 5 years.

anyway i will do all my best... less resin more photo-etched and clear parts. that's the way to go to be not conterfeit

yours

Is there a consumer protection bureau in Canada, or Quebec? If there is than you should let them know that consumers are tricked into buying counterfeit products on eBay and that eBay doesn't want to rectify the situation. I'm sure they will have much more leverage on eBay than you have.

godfather23
07-21-2009, 05:06 AM
Do not stop by asking ebay to remove the items.

Make them give you the detailed information about the seller who is selling the copied products. By this you can contact the seller directly asking him to stop the selling with a dissuassion because of the breach of copyright law. He should also state or sign a declaration of discontinuance with a penalty clause in case he violates your copyrights again.

Somethings you should know before taking action against him:
- Was the seller allowed by the foreowner to make copies and sell these?
- In which country does the seller live? This surely affects the effective laws and jurisdiction.

If not sure what to do let a lawyer handle this case. Nowadays youŽll find tons of lawyers who deal with copyright issues. They might do that without asking for compensation, because the violator/defendant actually has to carry your costs of protecting your copyright!

Best wishes - Robert

kingkai
07-21-2009, 05:24 AM
Is it an idea for the people here who bought from him to contact ebay telling these are counterfeit and not complete without the clear parts?
The more people complain the more urgent it seems and ring bells at ebay?
I didnt buy from him, but maybe the ones who did should make a note of this on ebay...

jano11
07-21-2009, 06:51 AM
If not sure what to do let a lawyer handle this case. Nowadays youŽll find tons of lawyers who deal with copyright issues. They might do that without asking for compensation, because the violator/defendant actually has to carry your costs of protecting your copyright!

Good luck finding a lawyer that will do anything without ripping you off.

PeterGrave5
07-21-2009, 12:53 PM
how is that guy even in buisness, his prices are horribly high, i can get the same kits he sells on ebay the site he is selling on, for about half.

maybe he is pricing his kits high so no one buys them, but he looks more like a hobby store, to cover selling the fakes.

flyonthewall
07-21-2009, 01:28 PM
I've been aware of this loser for a while now. The same person was copying the 350z and TM Evo kits. I wasn't trading at the time I found out so did not bother to follow it up. This is not the first time and sadly it goes with the territory of being a resin kit manufacturer.

I say screw him! It's unfortunate for those who have been fooled into believing these are genuine SAS products, but if you are foolish enough to purchase from this person when you know they are not genuine then I can guarantee you will be receiving an inferior product. Apart from the kit being incomplete as Sebastien mentioned, you will experience fitment issues as there will be twice the amount of shrinkage from the original masters.

Whatever the amount of SAS copies this joker has sold then I'm pretty certain that they will dwindle down to nothing when others are made aware and when the real deal is back on sale again thanks to Seb.

M-Tuning
07-21-2009, 01:53 PM
I must say he did copy them really nice then.

Fitment is perfect, only the hood was totally flat.

And how can you see it's a copy?

godfather23
07-21-2009, 05:21 PM
Good luck finding a lawyer that will do anything without ripping you off.

:grinno: No believe in the judiciaries of the world??

From my experience is the copyright one of the fields where lawyers can get their share without ripping their own client off. Of course you should always ensure that the lawyer gets his payment directly from the violator!


Robert

scale auto style
07-21-2009, 05:41 PM
I must say he did copy them really nice then.

Fitment is perfect, only the hood was totally flat.



it's easy to recast resin everybody can do that.



And how can you see it's a copy?

how i can?? quite simple ask him where are the clear parts ?? it wil say to took the tamiay parts. but in fact in the transkit you have 2 orange clear lense. to cast these parts you need a bit of casting knowledge and a good equipment. otherwise forget it.

also i don't care he recast the stuff... what's bug me is he use the scale auto style NAME for his conterfeit.

i receive some mail by customer who bought his kit and they ask me to send them the clear parts because they was missing in MY kit...??

sorry i told them they are not my kit.

that's why i will fight for this conterfeit.

hope this help

yours

flyonthewall
07-22-2009, 04:15 PM
And how can you see it's a copy?

Because I know how I cast them originally. For starters the wheel arches weren't cast on a sprue like that. There are other differences too.

ramunozs
07-22-2009, 07:59 PM
Hey, Sebastien, look at this:

http://forum.spc.org.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12521

koksik
07-25-2009, 12:24 PM
ramunozs these pics are on first posts in this thread. This is my in box of this transkit. I did't know that is not a OEM SAS transkit. I tought that someone have a spare sets and he just sell them. Now I know thats is only a copy. And one question - is this bonnet is really so flat or just in this copy?

scale auto style
07-25-2009, 12:45 PM
Hey, Sebastien, look at this:

http://forum.spc.org.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12521


what i'm supposed to view.. it brought me to a ligon page???

yours

scale auto style
07-25-2009, 12:54 PM
ramunozs these pics are on first posts in this thread. This is my in box of this transkit. I did't know that is not a OEM SAS transkit. I tought that someone have a spare sets and he just sell them. Now I know thats is only a copy. And one question - is this bonnet is really so flat or just in this copy?


you will see it's curved a bit. sorry if the picture is not clear..

http://scale24-25.com/images/forum/r33/P1010244.JPG
http://scale24-25.com/images/forum/r33/P1010242.JPG

yours

koksik
07-25-2009, 04:39 PM
thank. My bonnet looks this same

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