Questioning Rumors about the GTR?

Here are the rumors I am questioning:

1. The GTR will come to the U.S. in 2006 with 400hp.
400 hp will be pretty weak in 2006 almost every car coming out now has 300+hp so I imagine in 2006 every car will have somewhere around 400hp.

2. There will be a Turbo 350z.
If the n/a 350z is already near 300 hp so if the GTR will only be 400 hp. Why would Nissan release 2 sports cars with similar specs?

3. The GTR will be released as a Nissan.
I think the G35 answers that question Infiniti.

4. The GTR will not do well when released in the U.S.
Most GTR fans are probably about 17-23 right now. In 2006up they will have been out of college for a few years, they should be able to afford the cars by then.

5. The GTR will cost 90k when released.
Does anyone know about a car called the Tommy Karia ZZ2. Direct from Tommy Karia's site the car maybe released in the U.S. for the price of 90k USD.

Tommy Karia zz2 stats:

Drive Train: ATTESA E-TS Pro II
Engine Rb26dett 600+ hp
Weight: 1000kg
Mid engine

You have good points, however, here are my opinions and things I have heard:

1. GT-R will probably come out in 2005 as a 2006 model, and it will probably have VQ35DETT with around 400-450hp.

2. There will definately not going to be a TT 350Z when the GT-R is out for the exact reason you've stated, however, we still have a few years to go, so I am crossing my fingers that NISMO will come out with a TT sometime.

3. I do think that GT-R will be released as a Nissan, just like the next Supra will be released as a Toyota and not Lexus. However, I guess you could counter that with NSX being an Acura and not Honda... I just for some reason am really confident that it will be Nissan. Another factor that would affect this is how each brand, Nissan and Infiniti, is viewed near the launch of the GT-R, they might put it into whichever one needs a 'boost.'

4. The GT-R will definately do well, there is no way Nissan is going to just slap up the next GT-R, which guarantees the fact that it will be an amazing machine with great technology.

5. The GT-R should cost around $55-60k here in the U.S. That is what I have heard many times and it also makes complete sense to sell it at this price range.

400 hp will be pretty weak in 2006 almost every car coming out now has 300+hp so I imagine in 2006 every car will have somewhere around 400hp.

what other cars exactly are we talking about?

the vette zo6, porsches... vipers, mustang cobra...

what else is there to compete with?

the viper's had 400 for 10 yrs, and just stepped up to 500.

the zo6 has 405, which is more than adequate.

the only porsches in the 400 range are the turbo with 415ish, and the gt2 with 460ish.

the mustang cobra makes 395 at the crank, though the dyno charts show 375 to the wheels...

so what else is there that is in competition?

and it's not like there's huge jumps in hp over a couple years... especially considering the cars mentioned are the top of the line for these manufacturers...

the gt-r will be a standalone style model, so it could have better models in the pipeline...

400 hp is more than enough to get ANYONE on this board in trouble, let alone anyone in the US.

i agree with igor, but the skyline will and mite have competition. bcuz, by that time the skyline somes out, there will be new breeds of Porches, Mustangs, and all the other super cars, the Rumored Supra too, so im thinin the GTR will have competition againt any other car

There definately be lots of competition out there in the states. It just comes down to how well the GTR is marketed to America. You and I know about the Skylines and probably would go out and buy a new one if we could afford it but to the average joe smoe they would probably waste their money on a mundane status symbol like a porshe or lambo. What we need is an affordable muscle car like back in the 60's and 70's. Maybe the GTR would give a good boost in that direction.(no pun intended)

My thoughts on the whole GTR issue
I believe that we will see a blown 350z, maybe not from the factory but certianly a TRD s/c. Just my thought but I have a gut feeling about this. My second comment is who really cares about vipers vettes and cobra's. the next cobra may or maynot have IRS. we have only seen concept drawings of the new c6 so its anyones guess as to when they will be out.

Anyone ever look at the price on a 911 turbo? Sorry I dont think nissian has to worry about porsche stealing sales:p . I beleive the only factor that can threaten US sales and/or ultimate production of a GTR is going to be the world economy. Face it, if they build a GTR and sell it for 5k and nobodies buying its a loose/loose sistuation.

BTW Nissian I have cash in hand when that car makes the trip to this side, the right side, of the pond!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jb

Originally posted by GTRsi
I believe that we will see a blown 350z, maybe not from the factory but certianly a TRD s/c.
I can tell right here and right now that will never happen. NISMO maybe but certainly not TRD. :)

Originally posted by GTRsi
My thoughts on the whole GTR issue
I believe that we will see a blown 350z, maybe not from the factory but certianly a TRD s/c.

Like Sami said, TRD will never make a 350Z SC because they tune Toyotas.

Stillen has a blower that is done/soon to be done.

Plus there are several turbo kits almost done.

The reply to the TRD comment has already been made.
Greddy has a Turbo kit out already
'03 Cobras have IRS (it pisses off a lot of Mustang guys)
The price of the New Skyline will indeed be high enough that they will have to compete with not only Porsches but Corvettes, Vipers, and the Mustang. The Mustang will probably be the cheapest of the bunch.
So they have to compete with not only those cars in price, but somehow they will have to sell the public on the idea that they can just flat, out-perform these American classics, otherwise, they may be doomed to failure here in the States, as much as you and I would hate to admit it.

My second comment is who really cares about vipers vettes and cobra's.

who?

nissan does.

that's direct competition for owner dollars.

you've got to come here and compete with those cars and prove you're better, not easy to do in a market that you're just getting into.

money talks

i heard a rumor that i'd be able to afford a skyline when they hit the states;)

Originally posted by BLU CIVIC
i heard a rumor that i'd be able to afford a skyline when they hit the states;)

I guess that all depends on how much "BLING BLING" you make.

Originally posted by skylinegtr34
Here are the rumors I am questioning:

1. The GTR will come to the U.S. in 2006 with 400hp.
400 hp will be pretty weak in 2006 almost every car coming out now has 300+hp so I imagine in 2006 every car will have somewhere around 400hp.

2. There will be a Turbo 350z.
If the n/a 350z is already near 300 hp so if the GTR will only be 400 hp. Why would Nissan release 2 sports cars with similar specs?

3. The GTR will be released as a Nissan.
I think the G35 answers that question Infiniti.

4. The GTR will not do well when released in the U.S.
Most GTR fans are probably about 17-23 right now. In 2006up they will have been out of college for a few years, they should be able to afford the cars by then.

5. The GTR will cost 90k when released.
Does anyone know about a car called the Tommy Karia ZZ2. Direct from Tommy Karia's site the car maybe released in the U.S. for the price of 90k USD.
In reguard to rumor 3. "The GTR will be released as a Nissan."
and the answer: "I think the G35 answers that question Infiniti."
I read that the G35 Infinity is not the GT-R but just a regular Skyline. There is a major diffrence.

im mad:mad: bcuz, the Vette Z06 cost a good 45-55k dollars in the states. the Vette Z06 is pretty quick, close to skyline 1/4 range quick. Im not comparing the two, but the PRICE!? can some one tell why the Skyline GTR at moterex or other importer dealers sell the GTR for such a high price?

Thats easy, you can thank the US govt:) They are protecting you:rolleyes:

Not to mention the fact that this question gets asked everyday it seems and it gets a response everyday from one of a few of us who take the time to read the boards.
Tony, Sami, and Flw will all agree with me here, this is way too old.
Really though, If you got the cash to spend on a Skyline in the states, chances are there is a better performing, out of the box, viechle that you can buy. The reason you buy a Skyline in the states is because you don't want to drive the same thing that every Tom, Dick, and Jane drives to and from work everyday. It's a rare car here and because of this the prices are higher. If you are buying one, you know what you are buying and you know that, for the money, there is a better buy.
That is the reason I bought the Blue Supra a few years ago. But hey, it's a Skyline. It's gonna be a cool car. Sorry about the rant. It's Finals week and as of now I have officially 4 days left of my entire scholastic career.

J,

Well said, m8.

The R-32 is a lot better car for the money than the R33, or the R34. I said for the money:p

I recently read a post, posted by Pepsi. He mention that when he went to pick up his R33, he finally got to see a R32 in the flesh. His words, like many of us who are actually around GTRs a lot, "Pictures do not do the R32 justice" I have said since the first day I actually saw a R32 GTR in the flesh.

Some of you guys have no idea. I think, since Sean has made the GTR onslaught in America with the R33, that it has been driven into the minds of the American populus that has a fascination with JDM type cars, that the R33 is the Holy Grail of the JDM cars.

You kids, give the R32 a chance. Do not make a preconceived notion that the R33 or the R34 looks better than the R32. They do not. There is my rant.

J get some sleep:D

T,

You fools and your R32's hehe. Just kidding. Ya, 32's are a very good looking car. They had quite a few at MotoRex when I was there and Tony(my boss) nearly bought a 32 while we were out there. It has to say something for them when Hiro(owner of MotoRex) drives a 32.

Originally posted by SkylineUSA


You kids, give the R32 a chance. Do not make a preconceived notion that the R33 or the R34 looks better than the R32. They do not. There is my rant.

Well put! I'd take an R32 GTR for sure. Best bang for your Skyline buck.

Originally posted by Supra650RSP
You fools and your R32's hehe. Just kidding. Ya, 32's are a very good looking car. They had quite a few at MotoRex when I was there and Tony(my boss) nearly bought a 32 while we were out there. It has to say something for them when Hiro(owner of MotoRex) drives a 32.
When I picked up my R32, Hiro mentioned why he sold his R34 and bought a R32. Didn't like the way the R34 drove.

My choice was always a R32 GT-R, even if money was no object. For me it was the history, something that will always separate the R32 GT-R from its younger brothers.

Supra650RSP, for the money it would be hard to find a better car than the GT-R. That is if your interest is in road racing. For drag racing you can't beat the american muscle for value. You will see when we get to Motorsports Ranch... ;)

Shhhh, there is a Mustang guy creeping around these parts.

1/4 mile, owned by American V8s. Still, I would not give up my R32:) Nuff said.

i'm really happy to see people who actually own skylines talking about something like this in a mature manner...

far cry from the kids who cry "skyline is god" and won't listen to anything else...

i'm glad you've admitted that the v8 is better for the 1/4...
not that i'm putting the skyline down, but it's good that you know your limits...

;)

What's there to argue?

V8(bigger engine), better suspension, and a solid axle.

the picture at the top looks like it is a tommy kaira ZZII? Is it! I know that it isnt no skyline!:bandit:

Originally posted by skylinegtr34
Tommy Karia zz2 stats:

Drive Train: ATTESA E-TS Pro II
Engine Rb26dett 600+ hp
Weight: 1000kg
Mid engine

this one?

from the second post?

with the pic of the tommy kaira zz2 under it?

i dunno...

could be...

Originally posted by skylinegtr34
Tommy Karia zz2 stats:

Drive Train: ATTESA E-TS Pro II
Engine Rb26dett 600+ hp
Weight: 1000kg
Mid engine

Thats a crazy power to weight ratio. That thing must haul ass!

Yes haul ass if it even makes it to production, but with the Japanese economy being as it is it may be a long wait. I was suppose to be in Le Mans this year but its not on the list. I guessing they had trouble with the RB26 reliability after 24 hours running 600hp.
I was playing GT3 the other day and saw it said the car may use a v12 as well as the RB26. But GT3 is not the most reliable source to get information especially with it being 3 years old.

Replace I with it in the above post.

Originally posted by igor@af
You have good points, however, here are my opinions and things I have heard:

1. GT-R will probably come out in 2005 as a 2006 model, and it will probably have VQ35DETT with around 400-450hp.

2. There will definately not going to be a TT 350Z when the GT-R is out for the exact reason you've stated, however, we still have a few years to go, so I am crossing my fingers that NISMO will come out with a TT sometime.

3. I do think that GT-R will be released as a Nissan, just like the next Supra will be released as a Toyota and not Lexus. However, I guess you could counter that with NSX being an Acura and not Honda... I just for some reason am really confident that it will be Nissan. Another factor that would affect this is how each brand, Nissan and Infiniti, is viewed near the launch of the GT-R, they might put it into whichever one needs a 'boost.'

4. The GT-R will definately do well, there is no way Nissan is going to just slap up the next GT-R, which guarantees the fact that it will be an amazing machine with great technology.

5. The GT-R should cost around $55-60k here in the U.S. That is what I have heard many times and it also makes complete sense to sell it at this price range.
#1 is true.
#2, if a lot of people like the 350Z and not the GTR, they would want a VQ35DETT which I believe they (Nissan) would do. And Nismo currently has no plans of FI for the Z and never will, seeing as how Nismo has never made a FI kit for any car.
#3 The GTR will be sold under the Nissan name like it is in Japan.
#4 True.
#5 It makes more sense if it is sold for 40grand like the 300ZXTT was. So 40- 50 grand like the Z06.



Originally posted by Supra650RSP
The reply to the TRD comment has already been made.
Greddy has a Turbo kit out already
'03 Cobras have IRS (it pisses off a lot of Mustang guys)
The price of the New Skyline will indeed be high enough that they will have to compete with not only Porsches but Corvettes, Vipers, and the Mustang. The Mustang will probably be the cheapest of the bunch.
So they have to compete with not only those cars in price, but somehow they will have to sell the public on the idea that they can just flat, out-perform these American classics, otherwise, they may be doomed to failure here in the States, as much as you and I would hate to admit it.
TRD makes parts for Toyota, just as Nismo for Nissan. Greddy doesn't have a turbo kit for the Z, check your info, it is still in R&D, they are changing the turbo's. I'm sure the new Nissan GTR will out-perform most of these sports cars in the class.

im mad:mad: bcuz, the Vette Z06 cost a good 45-55k dollars in the states. the Vette Z06 is pretty quick, close to skyline 1/4 range quick. Im not comparing the two, but the PRICE!? can some one tell why the Skyline GTR at moterex or other importer dealers sell the GTR for such a high price?

a stock ZO6 out performs a stock skyline ;)

well i hope that the r35 or whatever doesnt come to the us! i think that if you want a skyline you need to do as everyone else has and go to motorex or rb and get you one! the reason i say this is, once the skyline comes here, everybody and there momma is gonna wanna have one, and then you will see them just about everywhere you go, and then the skyline will be the new mustang! and that would just make me sick to my stomach if that were to ever happen

well i hope that the r35 or whatever doesnt come to the us! i think that if you want a skyline you need to do as everyone else has and go to motorex or rb and get you one! the reason i say this is, once the skyline comes here, everybody and there momma is gonna wanna have one, and then you will see them just about everywhere you go, and then the skyline will be the new mustang! and that would just make me sick to my stomach if that were to ever happenF*ck that! Why would you let the prospect of the few ricers spoil your hope of getting the car directly sold in the US? I don't want to pay $90-100K for the GT-R just so it has a more "exclusive" status. A GT-R is still a GT-R no matter how many people have them.

Plus, I don't think that many people could afford a $~60K vehicle anyway:screwy:. So I doubt we will see as many GT-Rs as mustangs.

you just watch, if they do let the gtr come here, then you'll see how manny people will have one, and if your gonna spend 60k, then why dont you just go ahead and buy a r33 or save a lil bit more money and buy a r34, or when the r35 comes out just buy it! i just dont see the need for havin it here as a regular car! it will be like seeing a zo6, there are alot of jax, i mean i see atleast 2 or 3 everyday!! and i like being able to count how many gtr's there are in the states!!! so rsxer45, you can say whatever you want, but it will happen if the gtr comes to the states, you will see them everywhere!

you just watch, if they do let the gtr come here, then you'll see how manny people will have one, and if your gonna spend 60k, then why dont you just go ahead and buy a r33 or save a lil bit more money and buy a r34, or when the r35 comes out just buy it! i just dont see the need for havin it here as a regular car! it will be like seeing a zo6, there are alot of jax, i mean i see atleast 2 or 3 everyday!! and i like being able to count how many gtr's there are in the states!!! so rsxer45, you can say whatever you want, but it will happen if the gtr comes to the states, you will see them everywhere!Yeah you're right, I see your point. They should only sell the sentras and the altimas here in the states. That way, only the true enthusiasts will have the money to import the "cool" cars . Furthermore, to assuage the fear of a massive outbreak of ferrari enzos we should tell Ferrari to hit the road and take their business elsewhere:screwy::iceslolan.

You keep saying "its going to happen, just watch and see (paraphrased)" but you fail to submit a mere hint of logic behind your predictions. The new GT-R is probably going to be at least $60,000.......you are not going to see it everywhere. And besides hypothetically, if such an event were to occur, who would care anyway? Just because tons of people drive the same care you do doesn't mean you are driving a POS. Afterall, it is still a GT-R, and I would rather be driving that than a real POS. But back to reality, that is very unlikely scenario to begin with :lol2:.

I don't mind if you do or do not want the GT-R to come to the US. I just don't like your reasoning behind your opinion. So maybe you can be a little more clear about your thoughts? Because, honestly you are not sounding very logical.

first off about the ferrai thing, not meaning this as an attack or anything, just simple conversation. they have limited numbers of ferrai in the states, is the gtr going to be like that or is it going to be a mass produceded car like the 350z and other cars like that. that is what i am against, i wouldnt mind seeing one or two in a city, i would love that, i just dont want to see a mass produceded car that all. i guess that is the best way to say things

Okay, here's how I see it. Seriously, how many of those "ricers" you fear will ruin the GT-R have 60 grand to send on a new car? Not many. I think of it like the supra was when it was new. Not many could afford it, so it never was "sold to death, like a camary. I am sure there will be plenty of them sold, but not enough to "make it the next mustang." Maybe like the Saleen, you see a few, but not too many. I don't see it getting bought up by every tom, dick and harry, and "riced out." At 60 grand, only a car enthusist with a decent income will be able to buy it. There is a difference between people wanting it and buying it. People may want it, but at 60 grand, many of them won't be able to afford it. That right there will help out with your worries. It like I said with the mustang. You can't compare them, the prices are way off, unless you are talking the Saleen, and then, you don't see gobs of those, so it's okay. Besides, it will be easier to insure the thing if it comes to the states for sale, so I am all for it.

but another thing i dont like when it comes to the states, is that it was really something to say that i have a skyline, (not saying it wont be when the next gtr does come) people knew that you couldnt just go to a dealership and buy one. and i like that it is a little difficult to bet one now, but i am going through it, i am going to be putting a skyline on hole real soon, a r32 and i like the thought that there are only two places in the whole us that you can get one. and insurance aint that big of a deal, they have places in cali that will insure it for you. its only a big deal if you make it a big deal!

It will be hilarious if the new GTR comes to the states and it loses all that superficial fan-boy aura of being "teh super japanes supercar."

Remember when the S2000 first came out? It was THE HONDA among Hondaboys for like a few months. After a while, when everyone who could afford one bought one, the S2000 sort of stopped being so special because it was everywhere. I mean, the S2000 is still that extraordinary 4cylinder performer, but it isn't something to gwak at anymore. Same goes to the 350Z... I see a dozen a day.

The GTR will probably come out; Infiniti will make a huge-ass deal out of it in their usual magazine ads since it will be their premium performer; people who can afford one will buy one, whether or not they are really Skyline fans; GTRs will be a common sight, like the S2000, 350Z, G35, Lexus SC400, Corvette, AMG cars, etc.

This might just be me but If they come out with a new GTR then all the prices of the current GTRs will drop dramatically then bam that when the people rich enoght sell thier old GTRs and buy the new ones and bam I have a chance to buy a GTR without selling a lung and kidney (will trade either one for a GTR but not both that will cost you a Lambo, drop me a line if you want this deal) The old GTRs will still have thier appeal because they will be different, individuality has a price that price is sometimes set to high. That might sound stupid but hey It be like that sweet old school Nova that everyone knows makes thier heart skip because you know you want that car. If the new GTR was the fastest production nissan and thier was 50 thousand of them Id buy one you know why because it is fast, not because I want to be cool (I'd get all the fine ass bitches and you are afraid.)

Tommy Karia zz2 stats:

Drive Train: ATTESA E-TS Pro II
Engine Rb26dett 600+ hp
Weight: 1000kg
Mid engine

Is there any info about the Tommy Karia cars? Like if they're based on any existing cars. Because I want to build a car like that but I'm not sure what frame and such to use. It'd be a 100% new body design and interior but use some existing parts such as motor, frame, suspension etc.

Sorry, if this has already been posted.....my browser is not working very well today...

My guess is that it will be a VQ35DETT...I mean look at the current VQ in the Z and G35....Greddy has a Turbo coming out for both...pushing 334 hp at the wheels...AND!!!!!!!!! Power Enterprises japan has a TT AVAILABLE for the 350Z that can be fitted to a G35 that puts ~408hp to the wheels...I mean if there are turbo kits out there already for this engine that put 408 to the wheels which is probaly what the new GTR will do, why would they change engines...after all VQ engines are cheap for Nissan to make. Regarding if it will be Nissan or Infiniti...my guess is infiniti....in the US at least....because people are so LABEL oriented...no one will want to pay over 50K for a NISSAN (ASIDE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT A GTR IS!) But for the most part the GTR will probally be marketed as a Luxury Sports Car. I mean after all.....Lets look at the market segment for $35000 dollar plus cars....most people are older college graduates taht make a fair chunk of change. I am not saying that a 20 year old cannot buy one, as I know it is possible, as I am 22 and Own a G35 Coupe....but I have 4.2% intrest rate and a 60 month loan and my payments are in the 650's a month.....most people my age that I know are stretching it on a Evo 8 at 32K....and when you are talking about a 50K or more car....you are pricing yourself out of the younger enthusiest's budget. After all....how many 20 years do you see driving FINANCED or OWNED BMW M3's around...or Even (god forbid) New z06's? The other issue is going to be cost of Insurance to....which will NOT BE CHEAP. So I would see such an "expensive" car being market'd under a "Luxury" name....that is must my 2 cents.......AND I HOPE I am wrong on the Nissan/Infiniti thing.

You know, 408whp from a VQ35 isn't really a big deal. There are stok VQ30s making more than that in Maximas.

If a VQ is really being prepared by Cosworth, it should handle plenty of boost and possibly be just as tunable as the RB.

They are so much because A: They have to import them and pay all these taxes and import fee's. B: have to make them legal for the u.s. C: have to work with the government for the new vin and paperwork D: have had to do r&d to make the car work here and E: because they have to outfit the car with us legal parts:emissions, remove interior to add body strength, ect. all in all that adds up to be a lot and to top it all off they can be hard to come by now that they aren't made anaymore. Trust me if they could they probably would sell them for less $$$$. nuff said.

Hey im sorry,but i wouldnt trust that info so much.Every forum says different things.
They say the GT-R will be released in 2007 with a 450hp engine. some say 2005. yall 2006..some say itll be n/a,and some turboed..

Carlos Ghosn says 2007.

NSX/911/360 Beware!

JAPAN: Nissan to sell next sporty GTR globally - report
22 Oct 2003
Source: just-auto.com editorial team


Nissan will market from 2007 a new model of its flagship sports car, the GTR, as "a global car," president Carlos Ghosn said on Wednesday at a round-table meeting with the media, according to Dow Jones.

It will be the first time for Nissan to market the model globally and Ghosn said the company will launch the model in markets including the US, Europe and Japan, the report added.

The new GTR is expected to be the successor to the Skyline GTR model, which was launched in January 1998 and [theoretically] available only in Japan. Nissan stopped marketing that model in August 2002, Dow Jones said, noting that Ghosn declined to provide any sales targets for the new model.

Nissan Skyline GT-R coming to U.S., but not until ’07

By MARK VAUGHN

NISSAN CHIEF CARLOS Ghosn confirms the Skyline GT-R will debut at the Tokyo Motor Show in 2007, with customer sales starting soon after that. The car will make “around 400 hp” and offer “top-level driving performance.”

Video game fans on these shores who have long enjoyed the high-speed thrills of the GT-R will have a chance to drive it (so long as they can pony up the cash). Ghosn says the car will be sold here.

Sure, but why the long wait? Well, it’s not as bad as the first proposal, which was for a 2008 or 2009 GT-R launch. And, if you haven’t noticed, Nissan has been working on a lot of other products lately—and doing a pretty good job with them, too—so there weren’t spare engineers to toil away on a fairly low-volume supercar. At one point, the company was looking for a partner to help share development of the GT-R, but could not find one with whom it was happy.

Ghosn says the GT-R will offer “top performance worldwide, not just compared to our cars.

“If you look at a car and think it’s a tiger, you’re not going to be happy if you get in and drive it and it’s a cat,” Ghosn explains.

Ghosn says the price will be relatively reasonable: “You won’t have the feeling you’re being ripped off.”

That’s still kind of vague, but it sounds like the GT-R will not be another half-million-dollar Enzo/SLR/Carrera GT supercar, at least not in the finance department.

The exterior will probably not look like the concept car shown at Tokyo two years ago, either, though the decision on which of many design proposals submitted has not been made.

now actually i heard about them comming to the states but not likely my cuzing was telling me they wont because they they wont really sell like the supra they wont make it there commin out with the new supra witch i think will sell for about 2 years then go back down like most of the cool jap cars they have stoped making and sending to the states but kept making them in japan like the prelude,supra ect im sure there are more so i dought nissan would send them here because most people that like nissan cant afford a 40 grand car really to think about it if i had 40 grand and a choice between the skyline grt r34 or the new bmw m3 i think id pick the m3 its fast my uncel has one and man it has power its almost a stage 2 all it needs is the shocks i think i could take a grt as it is now

if i had 40 grand and a choice between the skyline grt r34 or the new bmw m3.

I'd take the Skyline GTR R34....but that's just me.

I'd take the Skyline GTR R34....but that's just me.

I second that motion!

now actually i heard about them comming to the states but not likely my cuzing was telling me they wont because they they wont really sell like the supra they wont make it there commin out with the new supra witch i think will sell for about 2 years then go back down like most of the cool jap cars they have stoped making and sending to the states but kept making them in japan like the prelude,supra ect im sure there are more so i dought nissan would send them here because most people that like nissan cant afford a 40 grand car really to think about it if i had 40 grand and a choice between the skyline grt r34 or the new bmw m3 i think id pick the m3 its fast my uncel has one and man it has power its almost a stage 2 all it needs is the shocks i think i could take a grt as it is now

I'm not too fluent in Engrish.:screwy: Anyway, it looks like you're expecting a repeat of the early to mid-90s era of Japanese sports cars. It shouldn't happen that way again, unless for a different reason. The first time, the cars had gotten too complex and expensive, while the SUV craze was beginning to kick in. It isn't too hard to see who won that tug of war. The Prelude lasted longer, but was never much of a hot seller in the first place. Its high starting price made it cost prohibitive for most of the buying audience that would be interested in owning one. For those that could afford a Prelude, the performance just wasn't enough to justify the price.

Manufacturers are now keeping their cars simpler and cheaper this time around. For example, the Z car is only available in normally aspirated form, and maxes out at around $37k. Rumors have surfaced that the RX-7 and Supra will be using the same approach. Nissan will likely be applying this philosophy to the GT-R as well.

Carlos Ghosn has stated that the GT-R will be sold globally, especially for the US. He was impressed with the following the car had in the States, especially considering it was not sold here. From the beginning, he wanted the GT-R to be engineered to be compatible with US and European regulations. As the CEO of Nissan, he probably knows just a bit more than your "cuzing.";)

The M3 does not cost $40k. The MSRP on a coupe is ~$46.5k. Plan on spending another $8k if you want a convertible. Dealers are probably still marking them up beyond that. Even if the next GT-R was $50k, it would still offer a substantial difference in price/performance over the M3, considering the R34 was already pretty close.

now as i see it the "skyline" of the us is the g35 so i dont see y they will come out with the r35 my guess is that they would make newer models of the g35 rather then bering over the skyline but also one think abut the skyline i like its a right side car which i love im originally from pakistan and its cool i would love a chick to get in the car from the other side and plus it makes it cooler and ya the gtr is a good choice between the bmw m3 but i have also learned to have no doughts on the m3s power its aswam iv driven it and man its a ride im thinking of gettin a skyline grt if i can get one the onley reason for my to get it is to show to my uncel that jap cars got some power hell all in to the benz and bme thing

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