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Anyone replace the mustang coolant reservoir with something smaller?


Cobra4B
05-14-2009, 10:57 PM
I think I remember Gary Jones removed his fan assembly and the coolant reservior in favor of something much smaller. Anyone else change it up to cut some weight and make things more open? Pics?

eric1h
05-15-2009, 08:00 AM
Not yet, but that is part of the plan for the LS1 swap

Cobra4B
05-15-2009, 08:15 AM
Let me know what you decide to go with.

Cobrafang
05-15-2009, 05:48 PM
I will get some pics on Monday of what Gary Jones did on 2 GTRAs, one is mine and one is another customer's, if the setups are different.

I will have eric posts the pics, Monday once I get them.

Tom

Let me know what you decide to go with.

Gatorac
05-15-2009, 06:52 PM
I unplugged my fan and ran all weekend with no problem. I've since removed the fan all together. As for the tank, I would like to see mine go but I know these motors can be tough to get all of the air out of the cooling system when the radiator cap is so low.

eric1h
05-15-2009, 07:34 PM
yeah the fan is irrelevant unless youre sitting in the pits, I ran my M3 with no fan for an entire season with no issues.

eric1h
05-15-2009, 08:17 PM
I was planning to run one of these http://www.jegs.com/p/Moroso/1068357/10002/-1

David Eastman
05-15-2009, 08:27 PM
I got rid of the fan some time last year. The temp stays at 180.

David

eric1h
05-15-2009, 08:33 PM
I got rid of the fan some time last year. The temp stays at 180.

David

Sweet, one less thing to have to put back in when i finish the Ls1 swap! :-D

Cobra4B
05-16-2009, 12:46 AM
Neat info on the fan... what happens when I'm sitting on the starting grid at VIR getting ready to go? Do you guys just trun your cars off?

I guess I'm spoiled... when I was tracking my Z06 I'd put the windows up w/ the AC and stereo on for a bit :lol:

Gatorac
05-16-2009, 04:48 AM
Neat info on the fan... what happens when I'm sitting on the starting grid at VIR getting ready to go? Do you guys just trun your cars off?

I guess I'm spoiled... when I was tracking my Z06 I'd put the windows up w/ the AC and stereo on for a bit :lol:

Mine can sit and idle for a long time and not get hot. When it does finally get warmer then "cold", It usually stays right around 180.

David Eastman
05-16-2009, 06:28 PM
Brian,

Ford don't work like Chevys. When I am staging on pit out I turn my car off and leave the A/C on. According to the Ford manual put the orange key in the on position and the bottom right togle switch in the on position. That will keep the A/C turned on. And don't forget to put ice in the Cool Shirt cooler.


David

eric1h
05-16-2009, 06:42 PM
Cool Shirt FTW!!!

flipping that switch on is like liquid heaven!!!

Gatorac
05-16-2009, 06:44 PM
Yes, a cool shirt is required. Unless you have the new roadster version.:loser:

Blue Streak 21
05-16-2009, 08:46 PM
My car runs water temp around 210 F during the race. I wonder why it's so much hotter than yours? It's a new motor with less than 2 hours on it, so there could still be higher friction on components. I'd expect the water temp to decrease over the next couple of weekend races.

My fan runs for 15 minutes after a race. I've considered removing the thermostat and increasing the water flow. Oil temps are 220 to 230 F, so I'm glad I'm using synthetic.

boothkc
05-17-2009, 11:43 PM
Canton makes a pretty cool aluminum coolant tank replacement: http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/iwwida.pvx?;item?item_no=CAN-80232++++++1&comp=LRS

Make sure you bleed the system that's the only time I've ever overheated. I was amazed that it happend, must have vapor locked and blew coolant all over. Got the air out and all was well. Doesn't self bleed well. I "think" this Mustang system needs the large overflow tank to work right.

Don't remove the thermostat as this may cause the car to over heat. System needs some flow restriction to keep the water in the radiator long enough to conduct heat out.

Fuel injected cars will need >180d for the computer to run the car properly...else will be too rich.

You can get racing thermostat that is fixed open or just go with a good qualtiy replacement.

Kevin

Cobra4B
05-18-2009, 08:53 AM
So does anyone actually have the pics of what Gary did to his cars? I had them on an old computer and cannot find them. Tried searching for them on here to no avail.

David Eastman
05-18-2009, 06:45 PM
Brian,

Gary removed the fan and wireing only.

David

Cobrafang
05-18-2009, 07:05 PM
Brian,

Gary removed the fan and wireing only.

David

I have pictures. I have asked eric to post them here. It is a custom catch can that he makes for his early model mustangs and put on my (his old) Panoz. It serves as both the breather for the valve covers and the overflow for the radiator. The smaller hose is connected 2nd radiator cap on the passenger-side of the car which also helps with air bubbles when filling...etc. He also has an elective fan on the car out of a 4.6L mustang (clearly marked on the top). He maybe making more of these for folks if interested.

eric1h
05-18-2009, 07:16 PM
http://www.extremespeedonline.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=106669&g2_serialNumber=1

http://www.extremespeedonline.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=106671&g2_serialNumber=1

http://www.extremespeedonline.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=106673&g2_serialNumber=1

eric1h
05-18-2009, 07:18 PM
whats the overflow tank for? coolant or the pcv system?

Gatorac
05-18-2009, 07:48 PM
Looks like it does both.

The thing with the SBF cooling system is you need the radiator cap at the highest point to get air out of the system. With the cap in the upper radiator hose, you acheive this. Put a 20lb cap on the radiator and a 16lb on the fitting and it should work. Then just use a catch can approved by whatever sanctioning body your running with.

You can see in the pic below a custom piece I had made to make the cap the highest point in my Cobra.

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/data/500/13961ffr2010_3.jpg

Cobrafang
05-18-2009, 07:52 PM
Yes it does both. The two Earl connectors are the breathers off the valve covers and the small black hose is from the 2nd radiator cap...highest point to help with bubbly.

whats the overflow tank for? coolant or the pcv system?

Cobra4B
05-18-2009, 08:29 PM
Interesting... I could have sworn I remember him doing it another way w/ a new tank on the driver's side of the radiator.

I guess I'll leave mine alone for now and pull the e-fan.

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