Alcohol and Tamiya paint

So you guys all insist that isopropyl alcohol is so great for stripping Tamiya paints, lacquers and acrylics both. Well you're all a bunch of dirty liars. Well, ok sure it strips my bad rattle bomb paint job off my badly prepared body, but the paint Tamiya uses at their factory on their pre-painted wheels is impervious to this solvent. Liars all of you! See if I trust this forum again.

I actually doubt that isopropanol can strip lacquer but it does work well on WATER-based acrylic. I believe Tamiya uses lacquer on the pre-painted wheels or bodies.

Liars all of you! See if I trust this forum again.

:lol: Shows what you get for taking advice from this lot of @ssholes! :p

But really, no effect? You tried scrubbing it?

I actually doubt that isopropanol can strip lacquer but it does work well on WATER-based acrylic.Give it a try, you'll be surprised. A strong concentration of isopropyl (91%, or better still 99%) is fantastic for stripping Tamiya and most other lacquers. And it's much safer for plastic than brake fluid or gasoline.

I'm pretty sure what your talking about are the plated wheels? Right? You need to strip that in brake fluid not alcohol. Alcohol strips acrylic pretty well but it takes alot more time for lacquers.

Nope, painted wheels, ie the gold wheels in the Subaru rally kits. Not the plated ones. I use Easy-Off Oven Cleaner (in a disposable cup outside) to strip chrome. I left them sitting for, let's see, almost five days and scrubbed and scrubbed to no avail! All that it netted me were some fingerprints in the paint, and just a couple stripped spots in the paint.

Phooey.

I am experiencing almost the same problem as you! I painted my Jaguar XJR-9 LM Test Version last year with TS-9 over Tamiya Grey Primer.

I wasn't satisfied with it and tried stripping it in 91% Isopropyl alcohol three weeks ago to no success. I even left it in for two weeks and tried scrubbing it after to no difference! I used DOT 3 brake fluid and within 2 hours all of the paint is gone!

I had successes with Isopropyl, but don't know what's wrong with this one.

The 99% Isopropyl is not available in Utah, maybe it has something to do with the lame liquor law too :D (it is hard being non Mormon in Mormon-laden state :D).

Will, break out the Dremel! ;)

So you guys all insist that isopropyl alcohol is so great for stripping Tamiya paints, lacquers and acrylics both. Well you're all a bunch of dirty liars.

You're not doing it right! :evillol:

Mix it with CSC.

Ddms the Deceiver

Will, break out the Dremel! ;)

Ok.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/wheelsdisasteryoujerks.jpg

OH MY GOD LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO I'M NEVER LISTENING TO THIS FORUM AGAIN I'M SERIOUS THIS TIME REALLY I'M SERIOUS I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALA (Puts fingers in ears).

Oh, I'm working on this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/DSC02411.jpg

Ok.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/wheelsdisasteryoujerks.jpg
See?! It works - no paint :evillol:

Ok.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/wheelsdisasteryoujerks.jpg

OH MY GOD LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO I'M NEVER LISTENING TO THIS FORUM AGAIN I'M SERIOUS THIS TIME REALLY I'M SERIOUS I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALA (Puts fingers in ears).

Nice work. But you're supposed to put the model in the alcohol, not the alcohol in the modeler.

Ddms

Will, break out the Dremel! ;)

Who the heck is Will? Is he a member?

Ddms

I find that even 99% Isopropyl alcohol is very ineffective at stripping Tamiya primer. It does work ok for TS lacquer. I sound like a broken record I know, but Scalecoat will solve your problems - it is *****much***** more effective than alcohol. No comparison. It strips paint in minutes, not days. Safe on plastic, but don't leave it in for hours. Reasonably fresh stuff will strip primer no problem. My LHS sells it - about 10$ for a many-times reusable bottle. Trust me, I tried 99% alcohol many times, it's useless for stripping primer. I've never tried brake fluid or CSC so I can't comment on them, not sure about the pre-painted stuff either, but it will get rid of the clear stuff under chrome, though it takes time and some scrubbing - that is hella tough stuff.

.... I'M SERIOUS I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALA (Puts fingers in ears).


Do not listen... read...

I actually doubt that isopropanol can strip lacquer but it does work well on WATER-based acrylic. I believe Tamiya uses lacquer on the pre-painted wheels or bodies.


Believe me, it does strip lacquer, it doesn't even take very long.

Willmo, didn't tried Jack Daniels? Cost not much more than Isopro, and at last the scooby would thanks you for the aged bourbon taste.
If you have few bucks left you'll try the single barrel/reserve one, works like the "7" but plastic would thank you even more :D

Mmmm, I have a Lagavulin and a Caoila to try, but I wait a rare and expencive kit to strip, for the moment I try on myself :D

I find that even 99% Isopropyl alcohol is very ineffective at stripping Tamiya primer.

True; Tam primer and TS-series lacquers are not the same. But 91% isopropyl will strip Tamiya primer if it's mixed it with CSC.

That mix will remove Tamiya "chrome" in less than an hour. But it could be that the (Hasegawa?) Subaru rally car wheels are factory-painted with a 2K urethane. Nothing strips 2K urine thane.

Ddms

Hello

I have tried with great success to remove automotive paint and 2 parts clear with alcohol as you can check it in here:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=949061

I have stripped Zero paints and Zero 2K clear, Tamiya TS sprays and most automotive paints and clears with Isopropyl alcohol. Only thing it took a while to remove was Tamiya grey primer but after a couple of soaks it did finally remove that as well. I also stripped the factory gold paint from Tamiya's Subaru wheels with it, although I had to leave it soaking overnight and agitate it with a toothbrush....

True; Tam primer and TS-series lacquers are not the same. But 91% isopropyl will strip Tamiya primer if it's mixed it with CSC.

That mix will remove Tamiya "chrome" in less than an hour. But it could be that the (Hasegawa?) Subaru rally car wheels are factory-painted with a 2K urethane. Nothing strips 2K urine thane.

Ddms
Oh, that's cool, maybe something like CSC is the secret sauce in Scalecoat then, I'm pretty sure it's an isopropyl alcohol base with extra stuff tossed in. I might try that mix sometime. You should use Clorox to strip chrome - it comes off in, oh, say, all of 15 seconds...

I am just wondering why he didn't just paint over the gold. I have had great success with 91% alcohol on Tamiya and Duplicolor laquers. Oven cleaner and Castrol Super Clean(and other purple stuff) work well on most other paints. Patience and an old toothbrush are key.The guy needs to calm down and stop trashing people who are just trying to help.

The guy needs to calm down and stop trashing people who are just trying to help.

Seemed more like thrashing than trashing. WAY over the top, and possibly fueled by a controlled substance, so not to be taken seriously.

Ddms

I am just wondering why he didn't just paint over the gold. I have had great success with 91% alcohol on Tamiya and Duplicolor laquers. Oven cleaner and Castrol Super Clean(and other purple stuff) work well on most other paints. Patience and an old toothbrush are key.The guy needs to calm down and stop trashing people who are just trying to help.

In a rare, but apparently possible! occurance, Tamiya trapped some dust under their factory coat of paint, and I was hoping stripping the paint would free it, without me having to sand the intricate wheel detail. It didn't work readily, so I was just being silly. Maybe I'm not around much anymore but I think most of the older crew around here are at least cognizant of my occasional foolish (and at least, intended fun) posts. Modeling is serious fun, but not serious business. If they're not welcome, sorry.

... I think most of the older crew around here are at least cognizant of my occasional foolish (and at least, intended fun) posts.

I caught on when those little flecks of spit started sputtering out of my monitor. I, for one, am a fan of one-of-these-days-Alice-pow-right-in-the-kisser Jackie Gleason-style humor.

Ddms

I've used isopropyl alcohol on my tamiya painted model and it scrubbed off clean. Then again, I left it in the tank and forgot about it for 4 months.

I was just being silly.
Wot?!?! You were joking??? Noooo...!
There I was enjoying a good trashing ....:D ;)

I caught on when those little flecks of spit started sputtering out of my monitor.

I generally clean up with 91% isopropyl when that starts happening. :uhoh:


It didn't work readily, so I was just being silly. Maybe I'm not around much anymore but I think most of the older crew around here are at least cognizant of my occasional foolish (and at least, intended fun) posts. Modeling is serious fun, but not serious business. If they're not welcome, sorry.

Don't worry Will, we still love you. :lol:

I always strip after drinking alcohol...eeeuuuhhhh
drink after stripping alcohol.....


nevermind....