GDF Preview: Extreme detail RB26DETT out April 2009
gionc
03-26-2009, 05:55 AM
Hi fellows.
Let me to tell something about a dream turned in to reality (after several years) :D
I' ever been amazed by Clay and Steve's extreme detailed Nascar, I think one day I'll try to follow their steps, but I ever dreamed about a GTR built with those deep attention for details. The juce is : it's from ages that I wonder about a detailed RB26DETT, to use it on my skylines. R32 Tamy engine may be a first solution, but after you seen a HRM 917 engine you simply CAN'T use the R32 stuff. Yep, I love skylines, I think most of my built stuff are racing skylines, so years ago I started to think about. I ever taken clear my goal: the engine would be used in the car BUT ALSO outside, to rend the racing/tuner atmosphere in a cool dio, so metal gaskets, cylinder details, PE IC and stuff make more sense now :D
The person who helped me more with very kind ref material is Steve aka Hiroboy, may be Steve forgot, but at time when he founded his own business he sent me something special to help me in my project: it kept some time but I have almost done the job now :D. Other guy I must thanks like ever is my mate Andy/MPWR, ever helpful supporting and contributing with new/different ideas, and mostly digesting my "italenglish".
I started to design all parts I needed, detailed crankase, racing valvle covers, water and oil pumps, finally some good turbos and the whole injection system: let me show how it come out.
It would be for sale ever in my own style (straight from modeler to modeler, no shops) in mid/late april: casted in white metal, I'm valutating also to offer a second block casted in resin to achieve less weight.
This was the "ideal" goal for a sporty GTR:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/R1engine-1-1.jpg
And the following for a racing one
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/121761Image1.jpg
So I started to 3D design what needed:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/assem3a.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/assem1a.jpg
And a couple exploded views
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/assem4a.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/assem5a.jpg
So to switch the dream to reality I used a dream gear :D, last gen rapid prototyping
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8506.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8507.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8508.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8510.jpg
Than the second part of the job: being an avid MFH collector I know very well how disappointing would be clean at die a prototyped part: I must say my proto parts show less and smaller proto-marks (layers scratch), I wanted to do at least a good part of the cleaning job on my masters; you will also notice how a good 90% of parts are new/scratch, and how remaining parts from R32 engine are havily modified.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8523.jpg
Yep, a good PE sheet included in the pack :D, don't worry: this is just home made proto, a service is still now etching my parts with the usual great quality ;)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8524.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8525.jpg
Some mock-up: I didn't stressed too much (in fact I broken one pin...) master's parts so you'll see some "large" fitting somewhere.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8526.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8527.jpg
And finally the racing stuff, with water and oil pumps mounted
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8531.jpg
Like I said, out over April. Please don't contact me before the "for sale" announcment.
Following the second part of the dream: a PE set for racing GTR ('99-02) but probably usable also on R33s, with extreme discs details, resin/metal calipers with pads, interior details, and a machined set with Ohlins/Nismo dampers: I'll show protos but I must see how sales go before take this commitment: machined parts costs :D
Than I'll turn my attention on italian subjects for a whyle :D
Obviously April is also the great time to share the Porsche 356 cooling fins set: it would be for sale in same period. New site www.gdetailfactory.com (http://www.gdetailfactory.com) is now registeredand and would be online quick with collections and news.
Thanks guys for your kind attention.
gio
Let me to tell something about a dream turned in to reality (after several years) :D
I' ever been amazed by Clay and Steve's extreme detailed Nascar, I think one day I'll try to follow their steps, but I ever dreamed about a GTR built with those deep attention for details. The juce is : it's from ages that I wonder about a detailed RB26DETT, to use it on my skylines. R32 Tamy engine may be a first solution, but after you seen a HRM 917 engine you simply CAN'T use the R32 stuff. Yep, I love skylines, I think most of my built stuff are racing skylines, so years ago I started to think about. I ever taken clear my goal: the engine would be used in the car BUT ALSO outside, to rend the racing/tuner atmosphere in a cool dio, so metal gaskets, cylinder details, PE IC and stuff make more sense now :D
The person who helped me more with very kind ref material is Steve aka Hiroboy, may be Steve forgot, but at time when he founded his own business he sent me something special to help me in my project: it kept some time but I have almost done the job now :D. Other guy I must thanks like ever is my mate Andy/MPWR, ever helpful supporting and contributing with new/different ideas, and mostly digesting my "italenglish".
I started to design all parts I needed, detailed crankase, racing valvle covers, water and oil pumps, finally some good turbos and the whole injection system: let me show how it come out.
It would be for sale ever in my own style (straight from modeler to modeler, no shops) in mid/late april: casted in white metal, I'm valutating also to offer a second block casted in resin to achieve less weight.
This was the "ideal" goal for a sporty GTR:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/R1engine-1-1.jpg
And the following for a racing one
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/121761Image1.jpg
So I started to 3D design what needed:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/assem3a.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/assem1a.jpg
And a couple exploded views
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/assem4a.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/assem5a.jpg
So to switch the dream to reality I used a dream gear :D, last gen rapid prototyping
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8506.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8507.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8508.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8510.jpg
Than the second part of the job: being an avid MFH collector I know very well how disappointing would be clean at die a prototyped part: I must say my proto parts show less and smaller proto-marks (layers scratch), I wanted to do at least a good part of the cleaning job on my masters; you will also notice how a good 90% of parts are new/scratch, and how remaining parts from R32 engine are havily modified.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8523.jpg
Yep, a good PE sheet included in the pack :D, don't worry: this is just home made proto, a service is still now etching my parts with the usual great quality ;)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8524.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8525.jpg
Some mock-up: I didn't stressed too much (in fact I broken one pin...) master's parts so you'll see some "large" fitting somewhere.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8526.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8527.jpg
And finally the racing stuff, with water and oil pumps mounted
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/CIMG8531.jpg
Like I said, out over April. Please don't contact me before the "for sale" announcment.
Following the second part of the dream: a PE set for racing GTR ('99-02) but probably usable also on R33s, with extreme discs details, resin/metal calipers with pads, interior details, and a machined set with Ohlins/Nismo dampers: I'll show protos but I must see how sales go before take this commitment: machined parts costs :D
Than I'll turn my attention on italian subjects for a whyle :D
Obviously April is also the great time to share the Porsche 356 cooling fins set: it would be for sale in same period. New site www.gdetailfactory.com (http://www.gdetailfactory.com) is now registeredand and would be online quick with collections and news.
Thanks guys for your kind attention.
gio
jano11
03-26-2009, 07:06 AM
Beautiful engine! You did a great job on it. :thumbsup:
Where did you get all the required data over this engine?
Where did you get all the required data over this engine?
Robi J
03-26-2009, 08:01 AM
This is simply OUTSTANDING !!!!!
Robi :)
Robi :)
MPWR
03-26-2009, 08:41 AM
You know I'm looking forward to it!!! :ylsuper: (And what I have lined up for it!)
With all the cool bits included (like the spectacular turbos), I think my favorite parts may just be the etched clutch plates and head gasket. I just gotta do an engine rebuild dio with this one.
And it will be perfect for Tamiya's new Altima kit! :sunglasse
With all the cool bits included (like the spectacular turbos), I think my favorite parts may just be the etched clutch plates and head gasket. I just gotta do an engine rebuild dio with this one.
And it will be perfect for Tamiya's new Altima kit! :sunglasse
360spider
03-26-2009, 09:26 AM
Outstanding! No matter what the price on this baby is going to be, I'm buying at least two sets of each version (got too many engineless Skyline kits in my stash!). Incredible job Gio.
MPWR
03-26-2009, 09:55 AM
If you're not so familiar with the RB26DETT, it is the engine that Nissan put in the previous three Skyline GT-Rs- the R32, R33, and R34. (The current new GT-R has a V6). It is also a very popular 'drop in' for some other Nissans, like older Fairlady Zs. :sunglasse Tamiya included a usable RB26 in their first R32 kit, but their R33 and R34 kits have been curbsides. Gio has designed this one so it should work great in both street or racing Skylines.
ChillyB
03-26-2009, 10:23 AM
Why doesn't that URL work?
jano11
03-26-2009, 10:42 AM
Why doesn't that URL work?
You should read more carefully:
New site www.gdetailfactory.com (http://www.gdetailfactory.com/) is now registered and would be online quick with collections and news.
You should read more carefully:
New site www.gdetailfactory.com (http://www.gdetailfactory.com/) is now registered and would be online quick with collections and news.
drunken monkey
03-26-2009, 10:52 AM
some comparison shots with the existing Tamiya R32's RB26DETT would be really good.
ChillyB
03-26-2009, 11:12 AM
You should read more carefully:
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Thanks, Jano11. I do read very carefully and my reading comprehension is high. But the expression "would be online quick" is imprecise, to say the least. The URL doesn't lead anywhere as though it doesn't exist at all. I realize English is not his Muttersprache or langue maternelle, but the phrase he used doesn't mean much, therefore, my original question, which still stands and which I'll now amend: When will the URL work?
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Thanks, Jano11. I do read very carefully and my reading comprehension is high. But the expression "would be online quick" is imprecise, to say the least. The URL doesn't lead anywhere as though it doesn't exist at all. I realize English is not his Muttersprache or langue maternelle, but the phrase he used doesn't mean much, therefore, my original question, which still stands and which I'll now amend: When will the URL work?
drunken monkey
03-26-2009, 11:32 AM
I realize English is not his Muttersprache or langue maternelle, but the phrase he used doesn't mean much, therefore, my original question, which still stands and which I'll now amend: When will the URL work?
If you realised this, then you should have, as I did, take it to mean "be online soon".
It is also probably safe to assume that if he had a date, he would've given it.
If you realised this, then you should have, as I did, take it to mean "be online soon".
It is also probably safe to assume that if he had a date, he would've given it.
ChillyB
03-26-2009, 11:41 AM
If you realised this, then you should have, as I did, take it to mean "be online soon".
It is also probably safe to assume that if he had a date, he would've given it.
Ahhh, now it has all been made clear. Thanks so much to the both of you for the language lessons. And so sorry for the bother, everybody. I can never find the tempest whenever I look in the teapot. Patiently, so patiently, I'll wait for some further announcement of the "go-live" date for that URL. In the meantime I'll try to control my anxiety and perhaps work on my skills at inference.
It is also probably safe to assume that if he had a date, he would've given it.
Ahhh, now it has all been made clear. Thanks so much to the both of you for the language lessons. And so sorry for the bother, everybody. I can never find the tempest whenever I look in the teapot. Patiently, so patiently, I'll wait for some further announcement of the "go-live" date for that URL. In the meantime I'll try to control my anxiety and perhaps work on my skills at inference.
drunken monkey
03-26-2009, 11:45 AM
Thanks so much to the both of you for the language lessons.
You are welcome.
You are welcome.
gionc
03-26-2009, 01:14 PM
@ChillyB: http://www.gdetailfactory.com/ is online, but I think this wouldn't help. I have an italian vision of "quick", yes probably imprecise.
@DM: Your is probably a good idea: I'll do a comparo "quick" :D J/K, I'll try to do a dry mount of the R32 engine this night and take few shots, thanks.
Thanks guys for your feedback and support!
@DM: Your is probably a good idea: I'll do a comparo "quick" :D J/K, I'll try to do a dry mount of the R32 engine this night and take few shots, thanks.
Thanks guys for your feedback and support!
drunken monkey
03-26-2009, 01:18 PM
Have you also had a look at the Aoshima and Fujimi (resin) engines?
I know a few people that have previously bought Aoshima/Fujimi kits purely for the engine so as a side line, it might be worthwhile you just offering the detailing parts aside from the main engine block.
I know a few people that have previously bought Aoshima/Fujimi kits purely for the engine so as a side line, it might be worthwhile you just offering the detailing parts aside from the main engine block.
jano11
03-26-2009, 01:48 PM
Thanks, Jano11. I do read very carefully and my reading comprehension is high. But the expression "would be online quick" is imprecise, to say the least. The URL doesn't lead anywhere as though it doesn't exist at all. I realize English is not his Muttersprache or langue maternelle, but the phrase he used doesn't mean much, therefore, my original question, which still stands and which I'll now amend: When will the URL work?
Yeah Italian English is a bit more difficult to understand, but you get used to it after reading a few of Gio's posts!
Sorry if I was a bit rough it wasn't intended to be a malicious comment.
Yeah Italian English is a bit more difficult to understand, but you get used to it after reading a few of Gio's posts!
Sorry if I was a bit rough it wasn't intended to be a malicious comment.
ales
03-26-2009, 02:21 PM
Gio, this is absolutely outstanding! Now ... have you given a thought to making an SR20DE/SR20DET to same standards? :icon16:
gionc
03-26-2009, 03:19 PM
Gio, this is absolutely outstanding! Now ... have you given a thought to making an SR20DE/SR20DET to same standards? :icon16:
Sorry Ales, not in my plans ;)
You'll ever steal a couple cylinders from the RB26 and split it in two... a SR20 and a... twin 600 cc supercharged for a flying Super Seven ;) :D
Sorry Ales, not in my plans ;)
You'll ever steal a couple cylinders from the RB26 and split it in two... a SR20 and a... twin 600 cc supercharged for a flying Super Seven ;) :D
willimo
03-26-2009, 07:49 PM
Woah. I hope you can keep up with demand! Awesome work!
klutz_100
03-26-2009, 10:44 PM
Crazy, obsessed Italian man!! :D
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/SMILEYS/gapa.gif
It's really motivating and great fun to see you take on these kind of things and bring them to life. Keep it up, Maestro! :thumbsup:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/SMILEYS/gapa.gif
It's really motivating and great fun to see you take on these kind of things and bring them to life. Keep it up, Maestro! :thumbsup:
AustinMartin
03-26-2009, 10:59 PM
Outstanding! No matter what the price on this baby is going to be, I'm buying at least two sets of each version (got too many engineless Skyline kits in my stash!). Incredible job Gio.
Alex, I thought you were Ferrari only?
Alex, I thought you were Ferrari only?
da_ashman
03-29-2009, 08:08 PM
Cant wait to order my sets, fantastic detail!!! Cant wait, looks like that R33 in the closets gettin its bonnet ripped off.!!!! Oh, is it 1:24 scale?
Many thanks for the extra effort put into the masters, its always nice when aftermarket stuff fits well.
Many thanks for the extra effort put into the masters, its always nice when aftermarket stuff fits well.
bozothenutter
03-30-2009, 04:16 AM
wow, lookst very good, as you used CAD....you could scale up to 1/12 no?
I have a racing R32 that could use one....
I have a racing R32 that could use one....
gionc
05-08-2009, 03:26 AM
Guys, just a quick preview of production mock up, waiting the official launch in few days
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/DSC_0348a.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/DSC_0344a.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/DSC_0320.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/DSC_0319.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/DSC_0348a.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/DSC_0344a.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/DSC_0320.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/varie/DSC_0319.jpg
mrawl
05-08-2009, 04:19 AM
Brilliant Gio. You should be very proud of that.
Robi J
05-08-2009, 04:20 AM
Awesome Bare Metal :grinyes:
Bravo Bravo Bravo Gio !!!
R
Bravo Bravo Bravo Gio !!!
R
360spider
05-08-2009, 08:35 AM
Absolutely brilliant!
stryfe101
05-08-2009, 10:45 AM
Ok I was impressed before, but now after seeing the production mock-up I really must have one of these...where do I order Gio?
Gray
Gray
gionc
05-08-2009, 11:39 AM
..where do I order Gio?
Gray
Thanks for the question: I'll get all needed informations in a dedicated presentation thread over next few days: I need to take the project on hold few days since I forgot few parts like the oil filter (that now a good american friends machined for me "just in time" and I'm sending to cast service to cast in a rush;) :D ) and the paper air filter PE caps: since I'm asshole I designed two, but by two different sizes (in case one want to shorten a bit the filter lenght).. so I need micro- PE errata corrige.
Gray
Thanks for the question: I'll get all needed informations in a dedicated presentation thread over next few days: I need to take the project on hold few days since I forgot few parts like the oil filter (that now a good american friends machined for me "just in time" and I'm sending to cast service to cast in a rush;) :D ) and the paper air filter PE caps: since I'm asshole I designed two, but by two different sizes (in case one want to shorten a bit the filter lenght).. so I need micro- PE errata corrige.
drunken monkey
05-08-2009, 12:20 PM
Model Factory Gio?
tpliquid
05-08-2009, 02:43 PM
wow thats hot!!
will you sell turbos seperate?
will you sell turbos seperate?
tonioseven
05-08-2009, 04:46 PM
I like this project. Perhaps this will be what I need to do the ultimate Skyline build I've always wanted to do.
MPWR
05-08-2009, 05:47 PM
Perhaps this will be what I need to do the ultimate Skyline build I've always wanted to do.
You and me both. :sunglasse
You and me both. :sunglasse
druid_99
05-14-2009, 05:59 AM
The engine looks very good...
Any news on this? Is it already available because my Z-Tune needs an engine... :biggrin:
Any news on this? Is it already available because my Z-Tune needs an engine... :biggrin:
gionc
05-14-2009, 06:40 AM
The engine looks very good...
Any news on this? Is it already available because my Z-Tune needs an engine... :biggrin:
:D yes I got everithing ready, I'm waiting last few touches: in fact I forgot oil filter and a couple other stuff, I think I'll be ready for the "availible" announcment nex week, thanks.
Any news on this? Is it already available because my Z-Tune needs an engine... :biggrin:
:D yes I got everithing ready, I'm waiting last few touches: in fact I forgot oil filter and a couple other stuff, I think I'll be ready for the "availible" announcment nex week, thanks.
druid_99
05-14-2009, 10:50 PM
:D yes I got everithing ready, I'm waiting last few touches: in fact I forgot oil filter and a couple other stuff, I think I'll be ready for the "availible" announcment nex week, thanks.
That's a really good news. I'll be waiting for the announcement.:)
That's a really good news. I'll be waiting for the announcement.:)
MidMazar
05-21-2009, 02:27 PM
Bump
Bump
Sorry i just can't wait, any news?
Bump
Sorry i just can't wait, any news?
gionc
05-21-2009, 03:42 PM
Bump
Bump
Sorry i just can't wait, any news?
Yep, there's a new actor in the scene: MPWR's machined oil filter, it kept some time from USA to Italy but was worth wait: Andy machined a small jewel, I sent out today to white metal service, I hope to receive first run next week ;)
Bump
Sorry i just can't wait, any news?
Yep, there's a new actor in the scene: MPWR's machined oil filter, it kept some time from USA to Italy but was worth wait: Andy machined a small jewel, I sent out today to white metal service, I hope to receive first run next week ;)
MidMazar
05-21-2009, 08:46 PM
Can we get a price hint?
So that way my broke ass can save up.
So that way my broke ass can save up.
druid_99
05-21-2009, 09:08 PM
Can we get a price hint?
So that way my broke ass can save up.
I second that... :icon16:
So that way my broke ass can save up.
I second that... :icon16:
NismO_VspeC1
08-01-2009, 04:50 AM
awesome motor one of my all time fav motors
sicck dude.
sicck dude.
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