overhead console

94ts with the 3.8l I wish i had all the 96 options. I bought an overhead console at the scrapyard. Took it out myself with most of the wires intact,includind the temp. sensor in the front grill . When i returned a few weeks after to finish gathering the rest,the van was'nt there anymore!! Now i stucked with my dear console installed but not working! Were the wires connecting to some module or was it connected at the PCM ? Does anyone have the diagram for that? LMP,ARE YOU THERE!?:crying:

..no joy...my '93 did not have those options and they are not in my service manual either. Others on this forum probably have the service manuals for more recent years . CHeck e-bay...authentic GM service manuals are offered most of the time...
94 has the airbags that 93 did not have, but otherwise nboth are very similar; 96 though came with the 3.4 . The console picks up data from the speed sensor and probably computes fuel burn from the timing pulse of the injectors and rpm (I do not think there is a flow sensor like in aftermarket kits that were available for some time long ago) ...so several splices to perform...but I think all this can be reaped from the diagrams.
I CHecked http://www.autolib.diakom.ru/CAR/Pontiac/1997/Trans%20Sport/SYSTEM%20WIRING%20DIAGRAMS/ ; this is for '97 .... I do not see a specific diagram for the console.....but a "dataline" diagram that goes to the "driver information display" that makes me think this is a serial data bus...

Were'nt the 3.4 and the 3.8 both available in 96? Like i said,the van is no longer there,but i'm pretty sure it was a 3.8 Will wait to get another one at the scrapyard i guess...

Were'nt the 3.4 and the 3.8 both available in 96? Like i said,the van is no longer there,but i'm pretty sure it was a 3.8 Will wait to get another one at the scrapyard i guess...

Nope. 95 was the last year for the 3800 in the TS. That's too bad too. Because 96 was the last year of the plastic panels... :( Which makes 95 the best year for the TS.

An overhead console was an option offered in the 95 model year, not sure what differences there would be between that and 96 model. The 95 offers a compass display, as well as outside temp. The module for this is contained within the console itself, so with the exception of the remote temp sensor you should have everything. Looks like a 6 wire connector is used. If this sounds liike what you have now. let me know. I can try to post the pages out of the manual, or you can PM me and I will scan them for you.
Jeff

An overhead console was an option offered in the 95 model year, not sure what differences there would be between that and 96 model. The 95 offers a compass display, as well as outside temp. The module for this is contained within the console itself, so with the exception of the remote temp sensor you should have everything. Looks like a 6 wire connector is used. If this sounds liike what you have now. let me know. I can try to post the pages out of the manual, or you can PM me and I will scan them for you.
Jeff

Just wondering, I have the o/h console, but where is the temp sensor????? I would imagine its outside somewhere, but not in the engine compartment, because that would artificially raise the temp. Mine is always very accurate. I've had it down to -22F on one very cold morning last year!

It's in the grill,a little on the right when facing the grill.There is a connector at the sensor,and another one behind the windshield washer pot.

It's in the grill,a little on the right when facing the grill.There is a connector at the sensor,and another one behind the windshield washer pot.

So you should be able to see it if you unscrew the grill?

Also, do all Transports have the wires installed, regardless of whether they have the overhead console?

... I can try to post the pages out of the manual, or you can PM me and I will scan them for you.
Jeff
..If you have scanned those pages, with your permission I could host them in my list www.avigex.ca/xport that is opened to all...

If you look carefully,it's there.No need to take the grill off,and no,they dont come pre-wired as i tought they would be.

LMP:
Check your PM, can send the scans to you
Jeff

If you look carefully,it's there.No need to take the grill off,and no,they dont come pre-wired as i tought they would be.

So if a van doesn't have it, you have to route the wire from the grill through the firewall, etc? That seems like a big hassle.

yellowfiero,
i'm sorry,i meant to say that the vans prior to 95 are not pre-wired.since that option started in 95,i can't say if the 95 & 96 that were delivered without the console are pre-wired for it . i'm sure they are. you sound very interested,i'll let you know in a week or so.As far as installing it ,it's no big job.You can leave the wires loose,secured with ty-raps or go from junction to junction in the original mains like i'm doing(bit long)

yellowfiero,
i'm sorry,i meant to say that the vans prior to 95 are not pre-wired.since that option started in 95,i can't say if the 95 & 96 that were delivered without the console are pre-wired for it . i'm sure they are. you sound very interested,i'll let you know in a week or so.As far as installing it ,it's no big job.You can leave the wires loose,secured with ty-raps or go from junction to junction in the original mains like i'm doing(bit long)

Yes, I'm interested - sounds like a fun project (if the wires are already there, of course!)

Is this what you are installing?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/Jr3800/1995%20Pontiac%20Transport/95Transport018.jpg

It shouldn't take much power at all to run it, the Compass should be self contained IIRC, but the Temp will require a Temp sensor ahead of the Condenser...

From this summer...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/Jr3800/1995%20Pontiac%20Transport/ChainOfLakes.jpg

Hi Jrs3800
Neat pictures! That's the one i'm working on.What kind of vehicule is this?My cluster does'nt look like that.Altough it's very dim,you can tell a "var" and a "ice" in there.Does the "ice" comes on at or near the freezing point? I dont suppose you ever saw that coming on in Florida!Does it compute fuel economy,'cause looks like a wire goes to the vss

From what I understand it does not do Fuel Calculations.. Not sure if the olds uses the same unit... Some of the Olds products from that era did all of the calculations..

But what you have with the roof console is the Compass / Temp

Yes I have seen the display show ICE one time... It actually got down to 21F here and there was Ice... I had never heard my green grass that crunchy..LOL

Also those Pics are from my 1995 Pontiac Transport... Loaded with the exception of Sunroof and no leather..

From what I understand it does not do Fuel Calculations.. Not sure if the olds uses the same unit... Some of the Olds products from that era did all of the calculations..

But what you have with the roof console is the Compass / Temp

Yes I have seen the display show ICE one time... It actually got down to 21F here and there was Ice... I had never heard my green grass that crunchy..LOL

Also those Pics are from my 1995 Pontiac Transport... Loaded with the exception of Sunroof and no leather..

I've never seen one say 'cal'

" CAL " Stands for Calibrate... That Pic was before I really started driving it... After a few circles the Compass was happy again

What about "var"?

" CAL " Stands for Calibrate... That Pic was before I really started driving it... After a few circles the Compass was happy again

Huh?

You have to drive in circles?

Hi Yellowfiero
I've check on a couple of '95 & '96 and they are not pre-wired.

Hi Yellowfiero
I've check on a couple of '95 & '96 and they are not pre-wired.

okay, thanks.

Hi everyones ! My console is working right now ! Altough i have seen ­"ice" on a few times,i have yet to see "var" or "cal". Other than that,i'm very happy ,and i wanted to thank you all for your help !:smile:

Huh?

You have to drive in circles?

When it says CAL or Calibrate you drive in circles in an open area so that the Compass can find true North

When it says CAL or Calibrate you drive in circles in an open area so that the Compass can find true North

Did not know that. Was it in the owner's manual?

Yes its in the Manual..

According to the manual the compass is self calibrating... But says that when the Transport is new the compass may function erratically... If it does CAL will appear on the display.. Correction is to drive in a complete circle 3 times, then the compass will function normally..

Manual says VAR is Variance... Its the difference between magnetic north and geographic north.. So if VAR comes up you will need to select what zone you are in... I may need to do that one...lol... VAR has not appeared on mine but I think its off...lol