Straight from the people...

How many of us would like to see Nissan put out a Sport Compact Car in league with it's competitors (ie. the new neon, WRX, EVO, etc)? Cast your vote and tell us why.

all nissan has to do is throw a turbo in the spec v:flash:

nissan has plenty of cars to compete with the other sport compacts(skyline gts, bluebird, gloria) we just don't have access to them. if this is the poll/petition you plan on trying to send to nissan be sure to specify that. and you all probably know what i want and why from my "I'm pissed" thread but to make it short and sweet: it's just not fuckin fair that we can't experience all nissan has to offer here in the states. and i know there are shipments of skylines imported and legalized by a few companies (motorex,rb motoring) in very limited numbers but they have to come through the west coast first. i have NEVER seen a skyline make it to the east coast, they all get claimed.

and for those of you that are just viewing the thread and not replying or voting, hook us up and just click the damn yes button

you mean like a focus or civic SI ? if so, HELL NO. that will be the most ultimate gay shit. the ricers will be coming out and getting Nissans. they can stick to their honda and yodas. :rolleyes:


now if you are talking about a small RWD similar to the old school 240Z then teah, I'll be all for that :)

Originally posted by MaxRX7

now if you are talking about a small RWD similar to the old school 240Z then teah, I'll be all for that :)

i'm talkin a vq30deT or Vq35deT. or sr20deT a turbo sentra or altima. even if they made a whole new car just for us. we just want something to compete with the wrx(sti),evoVIII,srt-4 for around the same >$35,000 price tag. with the power and speed potential of a turbo charged vehicle. like you said in the thread about the maxima versus the talon tsi. with aroud 1 grand they can run 12's. name one nissan car that you can do that to aside from the 300zx TT, which is very pricey, even today for a used one.
even f they created an incarnation of an old datsun, it'd be something
we know they're out there, waaaaay the fuck out there, we just want them over here.

Whats wrong with the new 2003 350Z or g35. Isnt that a sport compact car. I think nissan made a real contender with the 350Z. Its getting good reviews all over.

there isn't much aftermarket shit for the z yet.

Originally posted by Paonessa
there isn't much aftermarket shit for the z yet.

There's never a whole lot of "aftermarket shit" until the car's been out for a while.

And I'm voting no. I would rather have something powerful AND practical like my fiance's 99 Max SE, as opposed to something that's only REALLY useable on the track.

I mean, look what I own: A 1994 Infiniti G20, 3050lbs and 140horses. Obviously I choose cars for reasons other than what kind of balls they have.

Yea it just debut. Of course there wouldnt be alot of parts yet. But in a recent car and driver magazine Nismo has alot of plans for the 350Z. Its just gonna get so much faster. Car and driver tested the g35 to go in 14.2 seconds stock in the quarter mile now thats alot of balls going toe to toe with the wrx and the new turbo inspired lancer evo also clocked at 14.2 seconds whereas the 350Z is all motor :eek:

Originally posted by 99maximagxe
...Car and driver tested the g35 to go in 14.2 seconds stock in the quarter mile now thats alot of balls going toe to toe with the wrx and the new turbo inspired lancer evo also clocked at 14.2 seconds whereas the 350Z is all motor :eek:

Considering that, it's beyond me why ANYONE would want the EVO. It's ugly, and for a little, teensy bit more you could have the G35, with its luxury, class, reclining rear seats, DVD nav system, etc...and since it's not even at its full potential (the 350 milks 27 more hp out of the same engine) you'd have more power to play with if you modded it.

if you get the g35 sport coupe(6mt) it's the same 287 hp. it's just a little slower cuz it's a 2+2.

and wouldn't your infiniti be great with a turbo? i had an old 200sx SE-r(same engine as your G20) and all i ever wanted to do was get the sr20de-t engine. i just think it'd be nice for nissan to come out with a turbo something from the factory.

the older maxima's still don't have huge aftermarket resources. my car is 8 years old and there aren't any mass produced headers, ecu's, cams. a few companies dabble here and there with these parts.

the acura 3.2 cl type s just came out and they already have nice comptech headers available for massive gains. intakes. h pipe exhaust systems. high performance cams, ecu.
the new rsx alread has forced induction kits available from greddy, jackson

if a new nissan car isn't the answer, than a much bigger, more easily accessible aftermarket market is needed

hey boingo, maybe you can help answer a few questions.
1)Is nismo going to be coming to our aid
2)if so when? and what cars are they planning on putting out stuff for. will they be marketing products for the nissan cars that are already out.(like a 4th gen max)
i've heard a lot of when's and if's but nothing concrete.

Originally posted by Paonessa


i'm talkin a vq30deT or Vq35deT. or sr20deT a turbo sentra or altima. even if they made a whole new car just for us. we just want something to compete with the wrx(sti),evoVIII,srt-4 for around the same >$35,000 price tag. with the power and speed potential of a turbo charged vehicle. like you said in the thread about the maxima versus the talon tsi. with aroud 1 grand they can run 12's. name one nissan car that you can do that to aside from the 300zx TT, which is very pricey, even today for a used one.
even f they created an incarnation of an old datsun, it'd be something
we know they're out there, waaaaay the fuck out there, we just want them over here.

thats apples and oranges comparing a factory forced induction two door car compared to a naturally aspirated family sedan.

Either way, factory forced induction, I.E. wrx, srt-4, audi s4, eclipse/talon, evoViii whenever it comes, all can just be boosted, exhaust adds way more hp then n/a and you already got a slight jump.

Originally posted by Paonessa
if you get the g35 sport coupe(6mt) it's the same 287 hp. it's just a little slower cuz it's a 2+2.

and wouldn't your infiniti be great with a turbo? i had an old 200sx SE-r(same engine as your G20) and all i ever wanted to do was get the sr20de-t engine. i just think it'd be nice for nissan to come out with a turbo something from the factory.

the older maxima's still don't have huge aftermarket resources. my car is 8 years old and there aren't any mass produced headers, ecu's, cams. a few companies dabble here and there with these parts.

the acura 3.2 cl type s just came out and they already have nice comptech headers available for massive gains. intakes. h pipe exhaust systems. high performance cams, ecu.
the new rsx alread has forced induction kits available from greddy, jackson

if a new nissan car isn't the answer, than a much bigger, more easily accessible aftermarket market is needed So you mean that u souped out your maxima to the fullest that you need another car from nissan to tune up. You have one of the fastest maximas being a 95. you could get a upraged ecu from jwt, a meiv (middle eastern intake valve). there are alot of turbo setup from at maxima.org. I think theres alot of aftermarket support for the 4th gen maxima. Headers dont give any hp gains because thats not restricting the 4th gen max its the y pipe and that could be cheaply opened up by a buying a budget.

Originally posted by JBL85


thats apples and oranges comparing a factory forced induction two door car compared to a naturally aspirated family sedan.

that's exactly my point. we want a car that can compare. well, i do anyway

Originally posted by 99maximagxe
you could get a upraged ecu from jwt, a meiv (middle eastern intake valve). there are alot of turbo setup from at maxima.org. I think theres alot of aftermarket support for the 4th gen maxima. its the y pipe and that could be cheaply opened up by a buying a budget.
i think it's MEVI. for variable intake. and the y pipe's in the mail as we speak.

i could get that stuff done. but doing it would get me at around 285-300 hp depending on if i went forced induction and how much boost witha lot of boost i could get around 400 probably but then i'd have to do serious engine work. my engine has 160,000miles on it. it runs fine but the money for a new egine, all that stuff, plus whatever i could get for my car would be a nice down payment for a new car. i love my car but the fastest max in the U.S is running just under 12 seconds. that's impressive but the evo, sti,srt-4 they'll all be running low 11's and i don't think many of the new nissans will except maybe the 350z with a lot of $$$ in it.

well yea. But your talking about new cars here. Your car is around 8 years old and still one of the fastest in the block. trust me with a meiv and ecu your car will be a highway monster. ask nealoc187 at maxima.org hes running high 13's N\A

Originally posted by mike9884
all nissan has to do is throw a turbo in the spec v:flash:

Definitely with Mike on this one, but the question is why haven't they already done this?

Originally posted by bk2kmax


Definitely with Mike on this one, but the question is why haven't they already done this?

Their sales are still high, they are not worried about it most likely

Originally posted by Paonessa
hey boingo, maybe you can help answer a few questions.
1)Is nismo going to be coming to our aid
2)if so when? and what cars are they planning on putting out stuff for. will they be marketing products for the nissan cars that are already out.(like a 4th gen max)
i've heard a lot of when's and if's but nothing concrete. The last I heard... (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t12535.html) Nismo was going to be stateside by late 2002...unfortunately, that doesnt seem to have happened.

As for a turbo in my G...yeah, that'd be fun, but right now I'm trying to pay for the darned thing. However, if I had to replace the engine anyway, why not throw in a turbo? My only concern with buying a used, turboed engine is reliability...as you know, if those things aren't cooled down properly there can be problems.
However, the G has adequate power for me now. It gets an avg. of about 27mpg while maintaining enough power not to be an embarassment. I don't race, ever, but if I did you can bet I'd want a lot more guts, though.

As a side note, I kind of LIKE the fact that there isn't a ton of aftermarket stuff available for Nissans. It seems that you only really see modded Nissans that are owned by enthusiasts, and they're pretty rare, unlike Hondas which are modded by EVERYBODY.

That ease of obtaining parts also contributes to the Civic and Accord being two of the 10 most-stolen cars...think about it this way: A thief can steal a Civic, spend $1500 on parts and paint, and have a totally unrecognizable car in a few hours.

on another note. Nissan should NOT build a 2 door Altima with a FWD V6 to compete against the 2 door Accord and Toyota Solara. Now it *could* be cool if Nissan makes something similar and smaller "pocket rocket" with a turbo I4 or smaller V6 (<3.5L) RWD wighing less than 2800 pounds.....

Originally posted by Paonessa

the acura 3.2 cl type s just came out and they already have nice comptech headers available for massive gains. intakes. h pipe exhaust systems. high performance cams, ecu.
the new rsx alread has forced induction kits available from greddy, jackson

if a new nissan car isn't the answer, than a much bigger, more easily accessible aftermarket market is needed

AMEN! we need more than stillen and jim wolfe. nismo needs to get its ass in gear and make more shit for all nissans!!! i would rather buy from nismo anyway plus dont they realize there is a huge profit to be made from us and they are mising out on it (dumb asses) - they should carry and install nismo at the dealerships da:hehe:

Originally posted by boingo82
The last I heard... (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t12535.html)
As a side note, I kind of LIKE the fact that there isn't a ton of aftermarket stuff available for Nissans. It seems that you only really see modded Nissans that are owned by enthusiasts, and they're pretty rare, unlike Hondas which are modded by EVERYBODY.

That ease of obtaining parts also contributes to the Civic and Accord being two of the 10 most-stolen cars...think about it this way: A thief can steal a Civic, spend $1500 on parts and paint, and have a totally unrecognizable car in a few hours.

Damn i didnt think about it like that :thinkerg: maybee your right but i would still like to see a little more selection :cry:

Originally posted by mike9884


AMEN! we need more than stillen and jim wolfe. nismo needs to get its ass in gear and make more shit for all nissans!!! i would rather buy from nismo anyway plus dont they realize there is a huge profit to be made from us and they are mising out on it (dumb asses) - they should carry and install nismo at the dealerships da:hehe:

Well I make a pulley for the Maxima and Altima :p I am trying my best, but the guys doing my work lag. So I dont always have stuff comming out in a timely matter. I know guys want things like cams, larger manifolds, cam gears, lighter rods, bigger pistons and all that stuff but its hard getting access to drawings/sizes and dimensions when the motors of these cars are not available to me.

Give it time, there will eventually be a large aftermarket available for these cars.

Originally posted by 99maximagxe
well yea. But your talking about new cars here. Your car is around 8 years old and still one of the fastest in the block. trust me with a meiv and ecu your car will be a highway monster. ask nealoc187 at maxima.org hes running high 13's N\A

that's true. i'll be damned if i can find any other car with this kind of style, comfort and performance for the $8,500 I payed.

Originally posted by Paonessa


that's true. i'll be damned if i can find any other car with this kind of style, comfort and performance for the $8,500 I payed.

You honestly cant, 4th gen Maxima is one of the best buys for the bang(used), although I think the 3rd gen V6 Altima(new) is filling that void that the more costly 5th Gen Max cant and Nissan is staying at the top of their game.

Originally posted by JBL85


You honestly cant, 4th gen Maxima is one of the best buys for the bang(used), although I think the 3rd gen V6 Altima(new) is filling that void that the more costly 5th Gen Max cant and Nissan is staying at the top of their game.

yeah but at the same time the new altima's don't give a used buyer the sense of security of the quality of the car as the maxima does. even a 4th gen max seems better built and more reliable to me...the 5th gen will be the same way in 5 years, cause of the luxury, looks, performance, and fit and finish. it's a killer combo, and that's what makes it a MAXima

Originally posted by thrasher


yeah but at the same time the new altima's don't give a used buyer the sense of security of the quality of the car as the maxima does. even a 4th gen max seems better built and more reliable to me...the 5th gen will be the same way in 5 years, cause of the luxury, looks, performance, and fit and finish. it's a killer combo, and that's what makes it a MAXima

'Tis funny, because the 2002+ Altimas crash the best of any Nissan so far.

It is true that Nissan's reliability has declined slightly, according to the reports I've seen. I don't know whether it's because of cost-cutting, or because they're manufacturing more cars in the US now.

Well what I have noticed was my GLE looked nice inside, but my Altima looks like a Lexus inside, doesnt have the same fit and finish, dont get me wrong I love lexus interior way more, but my car has a much nicer look then my GLE did.

On the GXE models I noticed it was always cheapy looking interior much as would be associated with a 3rd gen Altima.

As for reliability, its probably as reliable as a 5th gen maxima considering they have the same engine and a less complicated 5 speed transmission. I run my car to the ground, *knocks on wood*, she has been a reliable car with 22,000 in a tad over a year.

As for crashing, I feel fairly safe in the car, I have 6 front cabin air bags, 1 head, 1 side, 1 front for passenger/driver.

But you have to realize you never get the true feel for a car on a test drive or just sitting in it, its about driving a car and pushing it to its limits is when you realize how good a car is, thats probably why I respect this car more then when i bought it. This thing handles awesome and makes good power for a 4 cylinder motor.

all nissan has to do is throw a turbo in the spec v:flash:

Agree with Mike wholeheartedly and to take it even further they should do a one up in the bracket for the Maxima and to to either a Turbo Max or an SC Max straight from the factory.

If nissan makes a cheaper car then a 350Z that has that much horses.. then it will drop the value of the 350Z because i can just go buy a smaller nissan sports car and yeah its dead.. then theres the 300ZX u can get for pretty cheap now adays and it would kill the 300ZX value also cuz i can get a brand new nissan why would i get a 91 300ZX turbo that outputs 300HP.. for 15 grand? when i can get a brand new nissan and throw a twin turbo in it and its built as a sports car and get it around the same price

i have NEVER seen a skyline make it to the east coast, they all get claimed.

funny thing, i live in a small town in jersey and there's a performance shop that opened up a few months ago....these bastards have 2 totally hooked up skylines.....most of the time they're in the garage being worked on....(i have no idea what they're doing to them) but i've seen them driving around a few times....it's just cool to see not 1 but 2 skylines in a town that no one's even heard of......

funny thing, i live in a small town in jersey and there's a performance shop that opened up a few months ago....these bastards have 2 totally hooked up skylines.....most of the time they're in the garage being worked on....(i have no idea what they're doing to them) but i've seen them driving around a few times....it's just cool to see not 1 but 2 skylines in a town that no one's even heard of......
yeah, me and that Paonessa guy are uh, from the same town and recently 2 skylines came around. One's a blue r34 GT-R and the others a R33 gt-t. You'll probably see a lot more once it hits 2004. The U.S. has it set so that once a foreign car reaches 15 years old it no longer has to meet our emissions standards to be legal. so you'll probably be seein a lot of R32 skylines which started in 1989.

The 240 SX is close enough to what your talkin about so I doubt they will make anything for a while

If nissan makes a cheaper car then a 350Z that has that much horses.. then it will drop the value of the 350Z because i can just go buy a smaller nissan sports car and yeah its dead.. then theres the 300ZX u can get for pretty cheap now adays and it would kill the 300ZX value also cuz i can get a brand new nissan why would i get a 91 300ZX turbo that outputs 300HP.. for 15 grand? when i can get a brand new nissan and throw a twin turbo in it and its built as a sports car and get it around the same price

Well that is a good point but then you can say the same thing about the SRT-4. Why get a Viper when you can spend 10g on a SRT-4 and get it up t0 420hp and make it an awd car? Its just the fact of prestige you get when you drive the Viper. If Nissan did make a car that would out perfrom the Z you have no prestige or heritage with the car nor any nice amenities like dvd navi.