Hydrogen Generators
doctorhrdware
02-26-2009, 02:54 PM
I have been getting emails about installing hydrogrn generators. That you will see an approximately 5 to 10 MPG increase in fuel mileage. The cost is around $600 if I remember right. Is this just pie in the sky or will these hydrogen generators really work. Or is just a waste of money. :banghead:
KPS
02-26-2009, 06:17 PM
waste of money buddy, waste of money
GTP Dad
02-26-2009, 07:35 PM
Pure snake oil. Don't waste your money! A good tune up wouldn't cost as much and probably do more.
doctorhrdware
02-26-2009, 07:53 PM
That is what I figured but I thought I would ask. I can make my own hydrogen generator if I wanted to.
GTP Version 2.0
02-27-2009, 12:48 AM
I've built several of the generators as a hobby to see overall gains. I was able to get about 40mpg on the freeway, but for city driving only about 26. The essential thing about these generators is that you create a cell that produces an output level close to that of your engine, so about 3.8LPM for the GT and GTPs. If you have extra car batteries you can put them in the trunk and run the electrical to the generator, and then trickle charge the batteries at night. There are several designs that you can build yourself I suggest a dry cell, but you'll need a lot of stainless steel plates and KOH. Potassium hydroxide is a ferocious base that will damage tissue in seconds. Use baking soda instead. Don't forget to electronically lean back the system. I would save your money and build one yourself....
P.S. Don't use glass masonry jars, or glass of anykind. Pulse width modulation works great. And if you don't use a back-flash arrestor you deserve what you get.
P.S. Don't use glass masonry jars, or glass of anykind. Pulse width modulation works great. And if you don't use a back-flash arrestor you deserve what you get.
BNaylor
02-27-2009, 08:59 AM
I thought the concept behind these hydrogen generators was they use electricity to electrolyze small amounts of water and then inject the resulting hydrogen and oxygen gases back into the intake system.
Supposed to displace some of the fossil fuel in the cylinders or help the gasoline burn more efficiently which in turn is supposed to increase power and decrease pollutants out the exhaust.
Sounds like a good way to destroy your engine if it is not set up right. :eek:
Here is a good read posted up on EBay.
Click here (http://reviews.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Economy-Device-SCAMS_W0QQugidZ10000000005261775)
Supposed to displace some of the fossil fuel in the cylinders or help the gasoline burn more efficiently which in turn is supposed to increase power and decrease pollutants out the exhaust.
Sounds like a good way to destroy your engine if it is not set up right. :eek:
Here is a good read posted up on EBay.
Click here (http://reviews.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Economy-Device-SCAMS_W0QQugidZ10000000005261775)
GTP Version 2.0
02-27-2009, 02:02 PM
BNaylor your exactly right. If you can't entirely grasp the concepts of basic chemistry then don't try this, but if your a safety nut, then you'll be ok. A different design that I am trying to develop now is a two chamber hho cell with an electrolyte bridge. By having an anode and cathode in different chamers but linked together through a tube that shares the electrolyte you can cypher off the hydrogen and discard the oxygen. Doing so makes a better mixture without overloading your system with O2. IN fact a good way to lean back the system is using a MAP/MAF enhancer. Essentially its just 2 potentiometers and a switch that you can get at radioshack. If you don't lean back your system then your MAF will detect more air and dump more fuel into your engine. Thus your gas mileage will get worse. I was told that Mythbusters tried this setup, but didn't lean back the system, so they failed the experiment.
If you want to watch something interesting then go to Youtube and type in Stan Meyers.
If you want to watch something interesting then go to Youtube and type in Stan Meyers.
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