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b18c5 or H22


90LShatch
03-24-2003, 11:56 PM
I have a 93 civic hb and i was wondering which motor should i put into my hatch the b18c5 type r motor or h22sir which would be faster all stock??? so can you guys put some input for me thanks:confused:

mellowboy
03-24-2003, 11:59 PM
They're almost equal actually. I would just go b18c5 for less hassle.

Redline_civic91
03-25-2003, 12:10 AM
ever though of a b20 or ls vtec those are pretty much up there also.

mellowboy
03-25-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Redline_civic91
ever though of a b20 or ls vtec those are pretty much up there also.

I have the feeling u were gonna say that:rolleyes:

Redline_civic91
03-25-2003, 12:23 AM
yup untill you drive one you will know what i mean.:flipa:

90LShatch
03-25-2003, 12:27 AM
i heard you can run high 13's on a b18c1 with only intake header and exhaust is that true??

SiZ
03-25-2003, 01:05 AM
13s would be right for a B18C5.. Low 13s with the H22. :)

I'd go with the H22A.. It would be so nice.. One an LSD. Your car would be a fucking monster.

jNYCe5
03-25-2003, 04:09 AM
its a lot of work to put a h22 into a 92-95 hatch...type r motors are still pretty expensive

i would say like redline said... ls/crvtec
my brother is doing an ls/vtec in his 95 vx... it should be putting out about 180+ hp to the wheels and about 125 lbft..
and its relatively inexpensive

good luck with whateva you decide

91civicDXdude
03-25-2003, 05:43 AM
go for the geezer. a b18c1 is a direct bolt in affiar in 92-95. change a couple wires and you have a GSR powered civic.

mellowboy
03-25-2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by 91civicDXdude
go for the geezer. a b18c1 is a direct bolt in affiar in 92-95. change a couple wires and you have a GSR powered civic.

Yup i agree! I mean h22 is nice and all but u gonna sacrafice some handling.

mellowboy
03-25-2003, 08:35 AM
If you decided to go h22 You need:
Complete Swap (Motor, tranny, P13 ECU, axles, shifter cables, and metal shifter assembly.)
Injector resistor pack
Aftermarket motor mountsn (hcp)

about axles. Give hasport or Place racing a call. or www.raxles.com.I know place racing will sell you a solution. If I remember right, the wheel hub side of the axles is too large to fit the civic hubs.

EGR Valve (if it doesnt come with swap)

With the mount kit, the motor/tranny will bolt into the car pretty easily. get the correct info/axles from Place Racing and they will slide right in. Exhaust shouldnt line up, plan on going to the muffler shop. Get creative with your intake too.

You will need to remove your center console and cut a hole for the shifter cables to go through. Connect the shifter cables to the tranny and other end to the shifter assembly. You will need to drill holes to slide some bolt through your floor to hold the prelude shifter assembly in place, or have it welded when you get your exhaust fixed.

The rest is wiring. I always type it up last, but I would perform it first with the motor out of the car. Remove the wire harness from your stock motor. Fit it onto the H22 as best as you can, you will need to extend some plugs here and their to get them to reach. You will need to add the Knock sensor, VTEC, VTEC Pressure, Ground the other side of VTEC Pressure, IAB (2) wires, EGR Solenoid (3) wires, and EGR Valve (2) wires. You will also need some thick wire to extend the alternator wiring to go over the valve cover and to the front of the motor.

Then you are good to go

The H22 is a bitch to work on while its in the car. I would suggest changing all the belts (alternator and timing) while the motor is out of the car. I havent done an H22 timing belt but I have heard you need a special tool. Aslo do the water pump if you do the timing belt. You may also consider the clutch/pressure plate/flywheel while its all out. Clutchs are SUPER easy to do when the engine is out of the car. If you can install a catback, I have confidence you can do a clutch

I can elaborate on anything else you may have questions on too. Some of the H22's have an external coil, so you might have to modify your distributor wiring too

90LShatch
03-25-2003, 09:40 PM
i heard that in a 92 hatch you put a gsr motor you will run 13's is that true with slicks??? anyone have a timeslip of a gsr hatch stock maybe with intake header exhaust and on slicks or not??? thanks :devil:

mellowboy
03-25-2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by 90LShatch
i heard that in a 92 hatch you put a gsr motor you will run 13's is that true with slicks??? anyone have a timeslip of a gsr hatch stock maybe with intake header exhaust and on slicks or not??? thanks :devil:


With slicks yeh but on street tires no way.

90LShatch
03-25-2003, 09:49 PM
what about street slicks the ones that are legal for the street on 17 inch rims or 15s

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