Alclad for F1-wheels?
DasWiesel
02-02-2009, 05:56 AM
Iīm searching for the right colour of the typical silver and gold BBS wheels of Formula 1 cars. Unfortunately iīm not sure, if "ALC 101 Aluminium" or "ALC 105 polished Aluminium" resp. "ALC 108 Pale Gold" or "ALC 118 Gold Titanium" would be the better choice, as i havenīt used any of those paints so far.
Any experiences or even pictures of painted wheels?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/3119708090_c1d4d37f98.jpg?v=0
http://www.flickr.com
http://www.ferraris-online.com/cars/FE-F310-168/images/P014Web.jpg
http://www.ferraris-online.com
Any experiences or even pictures of painted wheels?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/3119708090_c1d4d37f98.jpg?v=0
http://www.flickr.com
http://www.ferraris-online.com/cars/FE-F310-168/images/P014Web.jpg
http://www.ferraris-online.com
stevenoble
02-02-2009, 07:04 AM
The Alclad regular Pale Gold is a little too dark for the Ferrari wheels, but you can lighten it with a little Aluminium, I've done this before.
taliesen
02-02-2009, 07:41 AM
I haven't done this myself, but the White Aluminum might be a good choice for the newer rims - I think the polished aluminum would come out a bit too chrome like, and the regular aluminum might be a bit too dark.
I like the idea of pale gold mixed w/ aluminum - the titanium gold color I think is a bit too brown to serve as a base.
I like the idea of pale gold mixed w/ aluminum - the titanium gold color I think is a bit too brown to serve as a base.
IanHug
02-02-2009, 11:39 AM
Pale Burnt Metal is perfect for the gold wheels. Gold Titanium is very light (almost silver), Pale Gold too gold.
I use White Aluminium for the silver but HPAluminium over a satin black is also good.
I use White Aluminium for the silver but HPAluminium over a satin black is also good.
jaykay640
02-02-2009, 11:49 AM
I'm with stevenoble on this. Pale Gold mixed with Aluminium.
JTRACING
02-03-2009, 01:47 AM
i use the cheap aluminum spray from canadain tire. then rub on pencil led to bring out some shine.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/cb1000f/IMGP8988copy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/cb1000f/IMGP8975copy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/cb1000f/IMGP8988copy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/cb1000f/IMGP8975copy.jpg
DasWiesel
02-03-2009, 03:44 AM
Thanks for your help! So i should go with Pale Gold/Aluminium for the golden wheels and White Aluminium for the silver wheels.
I primarily thought of Alclad because of no visible metal flakes, but your wheels donīt look bad at all, James. Did you give them a clear coat?
I primarily thought of Alclad because of no visible metal flakes, but your wheels donīt look bad at all, James. Did you give them a clear coat?
Captain Mark
02-03-2009, 07:20 PM
Just for reference, the wheels on the right are White Aluminum, and I don't think it's shiney enough for what you need. Admittedly the shots were taken in quite low light, so perhaps it would work - I'm not 100% sure, but I tend to doubt it has quite enough shine. If you could tone down the Alclad Chrome that might work, but I'm not sure how you'd do that - perhaps spray it on a higher pressure setting, or over unsanded primer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/captain_mark/Z013.jpg
And the image below shows Alclad Pale Burnt Metal between the yellow on the fuselage and the gunmetal colour on the jetpipes. It was sprayed straight over the yellow.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/captain_mark/FA-1805.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/captain_mark/FA-1806.jpg
I'm not normally one for aircraft, but occasionally one of these little 144th scale kits interests me.
Hope that helps a little!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/captain_mark/Z013.jpg
And the image below shows Alclad Pale Burnt Metal between the yellow on the fuselage and the gunmetal colour on the jetpipes. It was sprayed straight over the yellow.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/captain_mark/FA-1805.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/captain_mark/FA-1806.jpg
I'm not normally one for aircraft, but occasionally one of these little 144th scale kits interests me.
Hope that helps a little!
DasWiesel
02-10-2009, 05:12 PM
Thank you very much for those pictures!
I agree, white Aluminium does not seem to be shiny enough. I have to order polished Aluminium anyway so i will try that first.
Never thought that "Burnt Metal" would look that golden. Took a look at some ref. pics at the alclad page and it appears much darker there.
I agree, white Aluminium does not seem to be shiny enough. I have to order polished Aluminium anyway so i will try that first.
Never thought that "Burnt Metal" would look that golden. Took a look at some ref. pics at the alclad page and it appears much darker there.
vrossi85
02-10-2009, 10:46 PM
Hi, maybe its just me, but i feel that polished aluminum is a little too shiny, and i think alclad white aluminum is closer to the real wheels. Or i can suggest silver leaf TS-30 too with a little pencil led or smoke for weathering.
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IanHug
02-11-2009, 07:25 AM
You might try Mr Aluminium. Quite bright and shiney, dries very fast and is much more wear resistant than Alclad.
The rest of the Mr Metallics line is also good.
I get mine from: http://www.shopcreator.com/mall/departmentpage.cfm/ModelDesignConstruction/60603/1/1/%2D/60603
The colour and shine from some of the Alclad paints does change quite a bit depending on the base coat - matt, semi matt, gloss, enamel gloss, black / other etc. and also how heavy it's sprayed on - heavy coats lose shine. White Aluminium can change quite a bit depending on the base coat and HP Aluminium will lose some of its polish if it's sprayed over a matte base.
The rest of the Mr Metallics line is also good.
I get mine from: http://www.shopcreator.com/mall/departmentpage.cfm/ModelDesignConstruction/60603/1/1/%2D/60603
The colour and shine from some of the Alclad paints does change quite a bit depending on the base coat - matt, semi matt, gloss, enamel gloss, black / other etc. and also how heavy it's sprayed on - heavy coats lose shine. White Aluminium can change quite a bit depending on the base coat and HP Aluminium will lose some of its polish if it's sprayed over a matte base.
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